From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] printk: use a new ringbuffer implementation
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 18:15:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whNcrysjJYPDFhKAc4tvd80XGAyh95oZeAY6bmzpv3G-A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190808204841.5afcad46@gandalf.local.home>
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 5:48 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>
> I've never tried, but are you saying that even with the "10 second
> hold" the laptop's DRAM may still have old data that is accessible?
The power doesn't go off when you *start* the 10s hold. It goes off
after ten seconds.
So power is off only for the time it then takes you to press the power
button again to turn it on again. So just a second or two if you react
quickly to the "ok, power light finally went off". Longer if you
don't.
But yes, DRAM has retention time in the seconds. See for example
https://www.pdl.cmu.edu/PDL-FTP/NVM/dram-retention_isca13.pdf
and look at the kinds of times they are looking at - their graphs
aren't in milliseconds, they are in 1-5 seconds (and the retention is
pretty high for that time).
But I don't know what a power-off-in-laptop scenario really looks like..
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-09 1:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-07 22:26 [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] printk-rb: add a new printk " John Ogness
2019-08-20 8:15 ` numlist_pop(): " Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:41 ` John Ogness
2019-09-04 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-20 8:22 ` assign_desc() barriers: " Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 14:14 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:52 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 11:53 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-25 2:06 ` John Ogness
2019-08-26 8:21 ` John Ogness
2019-08-20 8:55 ` comments style: " Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 9:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:46 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 13:50 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-22 17:38 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-23 10:47 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-23 14:27 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-23 9:49 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-23 5:54 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-23 10:29 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:42 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 12:44 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 13:50 ` dataring_push() barriers " Petr Mladek
2019-08-25 2:42 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 14:36 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 13:43 ` John Ogness
2019-08-20 15:12 ` datablock reuse races " Petr Mladek
2019-08-23 9:21 ` numlist_push() barriers " Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 8:34 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 8:43 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 14:10 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 16:01 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 22:36 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 7:40 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-27 14:28 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 15:07 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 10:24 ` John Ogness
2019-08-23 17:18 ` numlist API " Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 23:57 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 13:03 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 7:13 ` John Ogness
2019-08-28 8:58 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 14:03 ` John Ogness
2019-08-29 11:28 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-03 7:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-30 14:48 ` dataring " Petr Mladek
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/9] printk-rb: add test module John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/9] printk-rb: fix missing includes/exports John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/9] printk-rb: initialize new descriptors as invalid John Ogness
2019-08-20 9:23 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 10:16 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:56 ` John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/9] printk-rb: remove extra data buffer size allocation John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/9] printk-rb: adjust test module ringbuffer sizes John Ogness
2019-08-19 21:29 ` [PATCH] printk-rb: fix test module macro usage John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/9] printk-rb: increase size of seq and size variables John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/9] printk-rb: new functionality to support printk John Ogness
2019-08-20 9:59 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:47 ` John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] printk: use a new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-08-08 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-08 22:55 ` John Ogness
2019-08-08 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-08 23:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-09 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 0:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-09 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2019-08-09 11:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-09 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 20:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-09 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 6:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-09 7:08 ` John Ogness
2019-08-09 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-10 5:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-10 3:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-12 9:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-08-16 5:46 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 5:54 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 9:40 ` John Ogness
2019-09-04 12:35 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: " Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 13:05 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-05 14:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 15:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-05 16:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-05 21:10 ` John Ogness
2019-09-06 9:39 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-09 14:11 ` printk meeting at LPC Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-13 13:26 ` John Ogness
2019-09-13 14:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-15 13:47 ` John Ogness
2019-09-16 8:44 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-16 4:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-09-16 10:46 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-16 13:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-16 14:28 ` John Ogness
2019-09-17 8:11 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-17 7:52 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-17 13:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-17 13:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-09-17 13:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-17 14:08 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-09-17 7:51 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 1:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 2:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-18 2:36 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 5:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 7:42 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 8:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 9:05 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 9:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 16:41 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-18 16:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-24 14:24 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-19 8:06 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-18 7:33 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 8:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-04 14:48 ` Tony Asleson
2019-10-07 12:01 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-06 9:06 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: new ringbuffer implementation Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 10:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 13:44 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 12:42 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-06 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 19:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 22:47 ` John Ogness
2019-09-08 22:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-10 3:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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