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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Samuel Neves <sneves@dei.uc.pt>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Peter Schwabe <peter@cryptojedi.org>,
	"Daniel J . Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 19/23] zinc: Curve25519 ARM implementation
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:03:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9rp0Fi5ObK5oi8FHj1_nK5hP4T2Bq7_dAmzq4OQ0mp0uw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9FLDRLxHReKcveZYHNYerR5Y2pZd9gn-hWrU0jb2KgfA@mail.gmail.com>

(+Dan,Peter in CC. Replying to:
<https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAKv+Gu9FLDRLxHReKcveZYHNYerR5Y2pZd9gn-hWrU0jb2KgfA@mail.gmail.com/>
for context.)

Hi Ard,

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:59 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
> Shouldn't this use the new simd abstraction as well?

Yes, it probably should, thanks.

> I guess qhasm means generated code, right?
> Because many of these adds are completely redundant ...
> This looks odd as well.
> Could you elaborate on what qhasm is exactly? And, as with the other
> patches, I would prefer it if we could have your changes as a separate
> patch (although having the qhasm base would be preferred)

Indeed qhasm converts this --
<https://github.com/floodyberry/supercop/blob/master/crypto_scalarmult/curve25519/neon2/scalarmult.pq>
-- into this. It's a thing from Dan (CC'd now) --
<http://cr.yp.to/qhasm.html>. As you've requested, I can layer the
patches to show our changes on top.

> ... you can drop this add
> same here
> and here
> and here
> and here
> and here
> and here
> and here
> redundant add
> I'll stop here - let me just note that this code does not strike me as
> particularly well optimized for in-order cores (such as A7).
> For instance, the sequence
> can be reordered as
> and not have every other instruction depend on the output of the previous one.
> Obviously, the ultimate truth is in the benchmark numbers, but I'd
> thought I'd mention it anyway.

Yes indeed the output is suboptimal in a lot of places. We can
gradually clean this up -- slowly and carefully over time -- if you
want. I can also look into producing a new implementation within HACL*
so that it's verified. Assurance-wise, though, I feel pretty good
about this implementation considering its origins, its breadth of use
(in BoringSSL), the fuzzing hours it's incurred, and the actual
implementation itself.

 Either way, performance-wise, it's really worth having.

For example, on a Cortex-A7, we get these results (according to get_cycles()):

neon: 23142 cycles per call
fiat32: 49136 cycles per call
donna32: 71988 cycles per call

And on a Cortex-A9, we get these results (according to get_cycles()):

neon: 5020 cycles per call
fiat32: 17326 cycles per call
donna32: 28076 cycles per call

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-25 14:55 [PATCH net-next v6 00/23] WireGuard: Secure Network Tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 01/23] asm: simd context helper API Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  8:28   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28  8:49     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:47       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 13:52         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:59           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 14:00             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 14:01               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-30  4:20                 ` Joe Perches
2018-09-30  5:35                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-01  1:43                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  7:18                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:45     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 02/23] zinc: introduce minimal cryptography library Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 18:33   ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 19:43     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 20:00       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-25 20:02         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 20:05       ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 20:12         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 20:21           ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 20:54             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 21:02               ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 21:03                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 03/23] zinc: ChaCha20 generic C implementation and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:40   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  1:53     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:15   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:18     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 04/23] zinc: ChaCha20 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:47   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  2:01     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-29  7:56       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-09-29  8:00         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  8:11           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-09-29  8:27             ` Abel Vesa
2018-10-02  1:09         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  1:07     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:18   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:20     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 05/23] zinc: import Andy Polyakov's ChaCha20 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:49   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 15:51     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 15:57     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 06/23] zinc: port " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 07/23] zinc: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26  8:59   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 13:32     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 14:02       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 15:41         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 16:54           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 17:07             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 17:37           ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-26 17:46             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 15:41         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 15:45           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 15:49             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 15:51               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 15:58                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27  0:04                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 13:26                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 15:19                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 16:26                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-27 17:06                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 16:21         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-26 17:03           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 17:08             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-26 17:23             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-26 14:36       ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-26 15:25         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 16:01   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  2:20     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-29  6:16       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-30  2:33         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 08/23] zinc: ChaCha20 MIPS32r2 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 09/23] zinc: Poly1305 generic C implementations and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 10/23] zinc: Poly1305 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 11/23] zinc: import Andy Polyakov's Poly1305 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  6:12   ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-03  7:58     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:08       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03 14:45         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 12/23] zinc: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 13/23] zinc: Poly1305 MIPS32r2 and MIPS64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 14/23] zinc: ChaCha20Poly1305 construction and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 15/23] zinc: BLAKE2s generic C implementation " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 16/23] zinc: BLAKE2s x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 17/23] zinc: Curve25519 generic C implementations and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 18:38   ` Joe Perches
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 18/23] zinc: Curve25519 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 19/23] zinc: Curve25519 ARM implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02 16:59   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-02 21:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-03  1:03     ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2018-10-05 15:05       ` D. J. Bernstein
2018-10-05 15:16         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-05 18:40         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  3:10     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 20/23] crypto: port Poly1305 to Zinc Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 21/23] crypto: port ChaCha20 " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:26   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:31     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  5:56   ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-03 14:01     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 22/23] security/keys: rewrite big_key crypto to use Zinc Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-25 14:56 ` [PATCH net-next v6 23/23] net: WireGuard secure network tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-26 16:00   ` Ivan Labáth
2018-09-26 16:04     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-11-05 13:06       ` Ivan Labáth
2018-11-12 23:53         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-11-13  0:10           ` Dave Taht
2018-11-13  0:13             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27  1:15   ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-27 22:37     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  1:09       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28 15:01       ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-28 15:04         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03 11:15   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:12     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03 14:13       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:25         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-03 14:28           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-27 18:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 00/23] WireGuard: Secure Network Tunnel Eric Biggers
2018-09-27 21:35   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  1:17     ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-28  2:35       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  4:55         ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-28  5:46           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-28  7:52             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-28 13:40               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:39               ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  3:45                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-02  3:49                   ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-02  6:04                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-02  6:43                     ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-02 12:22                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-03  6:49                       ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-05 13:13                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-05 13:37                           ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-05 13:46                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-05 13:53                               ` Richard Weinberger
2018-10-05 17:50                             ` David Miller
2018-09-28 17:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-29  2:40               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-29  5:35                 ` Willy Tarreau

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