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* [PATCH] Input: psmouse - disable automatic probing of BYD touchpads
@ 2016-11-12 19:15 Dmitry Torokhov
  2016-11-12 19:39 ` Pali Rohár
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2016-11-12 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-input
  Cc: Hans de Goede, Pali Rohár, Chris Diamand, phonesyfreakies,
	Michael Shell, Eric Wong, Ondrej Zary, Christophe TORDEUX,
	Richard Pospesel, linux-kernel

BYD automatic protocol detection is extremely unreliable and is often
triggers false positives on regular mice, Sentelic touchpads, and other
devices. BYD has several documents that have recommended detection
sequence, but they conflict with each other and, as far as I can see, still
would not produce unique enough output to reliably differentiate BYD from
other PS/2 devices.

OEMs sourcing BYD devices also do not do us any favors by not supplying any
reasonable DMI data and instead leaving turds like "To Be Filled By O.E.M."
in place of vendor data, or "System Serial Number" as serial number.

On top of that BYD is not truly modern multitouch controller, but rather a
single-touch transitional device that only reports absolute coordinates at
the beginning of finger contact and then reverts to reporting
displacements, and thus not very precise; the only benefit from using BYD
mode vs the legacy PS/2 mode is possibility of edge scrolling.

Given the above, and the fact that BYD devices are somewhat uncommon, let's
disable automatic detection of BYD devices. Users who know they have BYD
trackpads or want to experiment can attempt to activate BYD protocol via
sysfs:

	echo -n "byd" > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio1/drvctl

Fixes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151691
Fixes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175421
Fixes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120781
Fixes: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121281
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
---
 drivers/input/mouse/psmouse-base.c | 4 ----
 1 file changed, 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse-base.c b/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse-base.c
index fb4b185..bee2674 100644
--- a/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse-base.c
+++ b/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse-base.c
@@ -1115,10 +1115,6 @@ static int psmouse_extensions(struct psmouse *psmouse,
 		if (psmouse_try_protocol(psmouse, PSMOUSE_TOUCHKIT_PS2,
 					 &max_proto, set_properties, true))
 			return PSMOUSE_TOUCHKIT_PS2;
-
-		if (psmouse_try_protocol(psmouse, PSMOUSE_BYD,
-					 &max_proto, set_properties, true))
-			return PSMOUSE_BYD;
 	}
 
 	/*
-- 
2.8.0.rc3.226.g39d4020


-- 
Dmitry

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* Re: [PATCH] Input: psmouse - disable automatic probing of BYD touchpads
  2016-11-12 19:15 [PATCH] Input: psmouse - disable automatic probing of BYD touchpads Dmitry Torokhov
@ 2016-11-12 19:39 ` Pali Rohár
  2016-11-13  7:13   ` Dmitry Torokhov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Pali Rohár @ 2016-11-12 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitry Torokhov
  Cc: linux-input, Hans de Goede, Chris Diamand, phonesyfreakies,
	Michael Shell, Eric Wong, Ondrej Zary, Christophe TORDEUX,
	Richard Pospesel, linux-kernel

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On Saturday 12 November 2016 20:15:45 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> BYD automatic protocol detection is extremely unreliable and is often
> triggers false positives on regular mice, Sentelic touchpads, and
> other devices. BYD has several documents that have recommended
> detection sequence, but they conflict with each other and, as far as
> I can see, still would not produce unique enough output to reliably
> differentiate BYD from other PS/2 devices.
> 
> OEMs sourcing BYD devices also do not do us any favors by not
> supplying any reasonable DMI data and instead leaving turds like "To
> Be Filled By O.E.M." in place of vendor data, or "System Serial
> Number" as serial number.
...
> 	echo -n "byd" > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio1/drvctl

I agree, if we cannot detect BYD devices correctly without breaking 
other non-BYD devices then detection must be done by user...

So you can add my Reviewed-by: Pali Rohár to this patch.

Anyway, BYD show Linux as supported OS for their devices. It is really 
rude from BYD that they show Linux as supported OS, but Linux driver is 
reverse-engineered by community and they do not want to cooperate and at 
least provide some useful documentation for detection...

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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* Re: [PATCH] Input: psmouse - disable automatic probing of BYD touchpads
  2016-11-12 19:39 ` Pali Rohár
@ 2016-11-13  7:13   ` Dmitry Torokhov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Torokhov @ 2016-11-13  7:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pali Rohár
  Cc: linux-input, Hans de Goede, Chris Diamand, Frederick Billings,
	Michael Shell, Eric Wong, Ondrej Zary, Christophe TORDEUX,
	Richard Pospesel, lkml

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday 12 November 2016 20:15:45 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>> BYD automatic protocol detection is extremely unreliable and is often
>> triggers false positives on regular mice, Sentelic touchpads, and
>> other devices. BYD has several documents that have recommended
>> detection sequence, but they conflict with each other and, as far as
>> I can see, still would not produce unique enough output to reliably
>> differentiate BYD from other PS/2 devices.
>>
>> OEMs sourcing BYD devices also do not do us any favors by not
>> supplying any reasonable DMI data and instead leaving turds like "To
>> Be Filled By O.E.M." in place of vendor data, or "System Serial
>> Number" as serial number.
> ...
>>       echo -n "byd" > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio1/drvctl
>
> I agree, if we cannot detect BYD devices correctly without breaking
> other non-BYD devices then detection must be done by user...
>
> So you can add my Reviewed-by: Pali Rohár to this patch.
>
> Anyway, BYD show Linux as supported OS for their devices. It is really
> rude from BYD that they show Linux as supported OS, but Linux driver is
> reverse-engineered by community and they do not want to cooperate and at
> least provide some useful documentation for detection...

I am not even sure they have a good way of detecting their devices.
The Windows model is that vendor supplies OEM with their driver and it
just works (I do not think these devices have external PS/2 ports so
there is no concern with mis-detection).

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

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