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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrey Wagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, criu@openvz.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] signalfd: add ability to read siginfo-s without dequeuing signals (v2)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 21:15:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKgNAki0xt_wwixp7kdv04fKOCtCh-ObQjkFE9PiX6FapkO34A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130208191056.GA13674@redhat.com>

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 02/08, Andrey Wagin wrote:
>>
>> 2013/2/7 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>:
>> > Andrey, sorry for delay.
>> >
>> > As for API, I leave this to you and Michael. Not that I like these
>> > new flags, but I agree that pread() hack was not pretty too.
>> >
>> > On 01/29, Andrey Vagin wrote:
>> >> +static ssize_t signalfd_peek(struct signalfd_ctx *ctx,
>> >> +                             siginfo_t *info, loff_t *ppos, int queue_mask)
>> >> +{
>> >> +     loff_t seq = *ppos / sizeof(struct signalfd_siginfo);
>> >> +     int signr = 0;
>> >> +
>> >> +     if (queue_mask & SIGQUEUE_PRIVATE)
>> >> +             signr = peek_signal(&current->pending,
>> >> +                                     &ctx->sigmask, info, &seq);
>> >> +     else if (queue_mask & SIGQUEUE_SHARED)
>> >> +             signr = peek_signal(&current->signal->shared_pending,
>> >> +                                      &ctx->sigmask, info, &seq);
>> >> +     (*ppos) += sizeof(struct signalfd_siginfo);
>> >
>> > Now that this can work even with normal read(), we will actually change
>> > f_pos. Then perhaps signalfd_fops->llseek() should work too. But this
>> > is minor...
>>
>> lseek works only if FMODE_LSEEK is set.
>>
>> You have explained why read&lseek have strange semantics for SIGNALFD_PEEK.
>>
>> >Damn. But after I wrote this email I realized that llseek() probably can't
>> > work. Because peek_offset/f_pos/whatever has to be shared with all processes
>> > which have this file opened.
>
> Yes. but I thought you decided to ignore this oddity ;)
>
>> So I want to suggest a way how to forbid read() for SIGNALFD_PEEK.
>> file->f_pos can be initialized to -1. read() returns EINVAL in this
>> case. In a man page we will write that signals can be dumped only with
>> help pread(). Is it overload or too ugly?
>
> Well. I do not know. Up to you and Michael.
>
> But honestly, I can't say this all looks really nice. And why do we
> need SIGNALFD_PEEK then?

It surely is no beauty. The hope is at least to make it less ugly than it was.

> Seriously, perhaps we should simply add signalfd_fops->ioctl() for PEEK.
> Or add PTRACE_{PEEK,POKE}_SIGNAL which looks even logical and useful...
> And much simpler/straightforward.
>
> But I am not going to argue.

I suppose I had wondered along similar lines, but in a slightly
different direction: would the use of a /proc interface to get the
queued signals make some sense?

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Author of "The Linux Programming Interface"; http://man7.org/tlpi/

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-08 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-22 10:15 [PATCH 0/3] signalfd: a kernel interface for dumping pending signals Andrey Vagin
2013-01-22 10:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] signal: add a helper for dequeuing signals from a specified queue Andrey Vagin
2013-02-05 12:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] signal: add a helper for dequeuing signals from a specified queue (v2) Andrey Vagin
2013-01-22 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] signalfd: add ability to choose a private or shared queue Andrey Vagin
2013-02-07 18:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-08  0:35     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-08 19:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-22 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] signalfd: add ability to read siginfo-s without dequeuing signals Andrey Vagin
2013-01-29 19:03   ` [PATCH 3/3] signalfd: add ability to read siginfo-s without dequeuing signals (v2) Andrey Vagin
     [not found]     ` <CAKgNAkgQA=zK=2ZnytPFU=DH6jr0sja0iy6K+j6c7unheLFniQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-02-02  7:15       ` Andrey Wagin
2013-02-07 17:34     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-07 21:13       ` Andrey Wagin
2013-02-08  0:51         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-08 19:10         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-08 20:15           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2013-02-09 18:22             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-09 22:53               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-10 10:04                 ` [CRIU] " Andrew Vagin
2013-02-11 16:47                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 10:07               ` Andrew Vagin
2013-02-11  9:29             ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-11 10:59               ` [CRIU] " Andrew Vagin
2013-02-11 14:46                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-11 14:53                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-02-11 17:25                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-12 14:50                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-01-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] signalfd: a kernel interface for dumping pending signals Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-23 11:03   ` Andrew Vagin
2013-01-23 12:11     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-23 13:03       ` Andrew Vagin
2013-02-07 18:20   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-08  0:36     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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