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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 13:27:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrW7yxmgrR15yvxkXOF1pHy5vicwDv6Oj019ecEyBCrWBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <978d5f1a-ec4d-f747-93fd-27ecfe10cb88@intel.com>

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
> On 01/05/2017 12:14 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this.  Do other rlimit changes cause
>>> silent data corruption?  I'm pretty sure doing this to MPX would.
>>>
>> What actually goes wrong in this case?  That is, what combination of
>> MPX setup of subsequent allocations will cause a problem, and is the
>> problem worse than just a segfault?  IMO it would be really nice to
>> keep the messy case confined to MPX.
>
> The MPX bounds tables are indexed by virtual address.  They need to grow
> if the virtual address space grows.   There's an MSR that controls
> whether we use the 48-bit or 57-bit layout.  It basically decides
> whether we need a 2GB (48-bit) or 1TB (57-bit) bounds directory.
>
> The question is what we do with legacy MPX applications.  We obviously
> can't let them just allocate a 2GB table and then go let the hardware
> pretend it's 1TB in size.  We also can't hand the hardware using a 2GB
> table an address >48-bits.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to make sure that legacy MPX can't be enabled if this
> RLIMIT is set over 48-bits (really 47).  I'd also like to make sure that
> legacy MPX is active, that the RLIMIT can't be raised because all hell
> will break loose when the new addresses show up.
>
> Remember, we already have (legacy MPX) binaries in the wild that have no
> knowledge of this stuff.  So, we can implicitly have the kernel bump
> this rlimit around, but we can't expect userspace to do it, ever.

If you s/rlimit/prctl, then I think this all makes sense with one
exception.  It would be a bit sad if the personality-setting tool
didn't work if compiled with MPX.

So what if we had a second prctl field that is the value that kicks in
after execve()?

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-05 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-27  1:53 [PATCHv2 00/29] 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 01/29] x86/cpufeature: Add 5-level paging detecton Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 02/29] asm-generic: introduce 5level-fixup.h Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-27 11:06   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-27 11:30     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 03/29] asm-generic: introduce __ARCH_USE_5LEVEL_HACK Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-27 13:24   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-27 13:55     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 04/29] arch, mm: convert all architectures to use 5level-fixup.h Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 05/29] asm-generic: introduce <asm-generic/pgtable-nop4d.h> Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 06/29] mm: convert generic code to 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 07/29] mm: introduce __p4d_alloc() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 08/29] x86: basic changes into headers for 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 09/29] x86: trivial portion of 5-level paging conversion Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 10/29] x86/gup: add 5-level paging support Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 11/29] x86/ident_map: " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 12/29] x86/mm: add support of p4d_t in vmalloc_fault() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 13/29] x86/power: support p4d_t in hibernate code Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 14/29] x86/kexec: support p4d_t Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:53 ` [PATCHv2 15/29] x86: convert the rest of the code to " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 16/29] x86: detect 5-level paging support Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 17/29] x86/asm: remove __VIRTUAL_MASK_SHIFT==47 assert Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 18/29] x86/mm: define virtual memory map for 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 19/29] x86/paravirt: make paravirt code support " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 20/29] x86/mm: basic defines/helpers for CONFIG_X86_5LEVEL Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 21/29] x86/dump_pagetables: support 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 22/29] x86/mm: extend kasan to " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 23/29] x86/espfix: " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 24/29] x86/mm: add support of additional page table level during early boot Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 25/29] x86/mm: add sync_global_pgds() for configuration with 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 26/29] x86/mm: make kernel_physical_mapping_init() support " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 27/29] x86/mm: add support for 5-level paging for KASLR Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [PATCHv2 28/29] x86: enable 5-level paging support Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  2:06   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-27  2:24     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  3:22       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02  9:09         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-29  2:53       ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-12-31  2:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02  8:35           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-13 20:11             ` H.J. Lu
2017-01-02  8:44   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03  6:08     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 13:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 18:29         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 22:07           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 22:09             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 13:55               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 16:04       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-03 18:27         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 14:19           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 17:53             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 19:13   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 19:29     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 19:39       ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 20:11         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 20:14         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 20:49           ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 21:27             ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-01-05 23:17               ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 14:29             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 18:37                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:49                   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 19:20                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 19:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-11 21:46                         ` Andi Kleen
2017-01-11 19:32                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 19:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-11 18:26               ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 16:57 ` [PATCHv2 00/29] 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov

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