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From: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RAS/CEC: Add debugfs switch to disable at run time
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:08:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM_iQpVpnBoGbjUP4Ek0TDEN8aimq3ty=0EUmco9ywWDZa37Vw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190420184751.GE29704@zn.tnic>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11:47 AM Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> IOW, when you have the CEC enabled, you don't need to log memory errors
> with a userspace agent. The CEC collects them and discards them if they
> don't repeat.

So, you mean breaking mcelog is intentionally, if so, why not break it
loudly?

That is, for example, preventing mcelog from starting by disabling
CONFIG_X86_MCELOG_LEGACY in Kconfig _automatically_ when
CONFIG_RAS is enabled? (Like what I showed in my PoC change.)

Or, for another example, print a kernel warning and let users know this
behavior is intentional?


>
> If they do repeat, then it offlines the page.
>
> Without user intervention and interference.
>
> Now, if you still want to know how many errors and where they happened
> and when they happened and yadda yadda, you *disable* the CEC.

Well, I believe rasdaemon has the counters too, it is not hard to count
the trace events at all. I don't worry about this at all. What I worry is how
we treat mcelog when having CONFIG_RAS=y.

>
> I hope this makes more sense now.

Yes, thanks for the information. It is kinda what I expected, as I keep saying,
I believe we can improve this situation to avoid users' confusion, rather than
just saying CONFIG_RAS=n is the answer.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-20 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-18 22:02 [PATCH] RAS/CEC: Add debugfs switch to disable at run time Tony Luck
2019-04-18 22:51 ` Cong Wang
2019-04-18 23:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-18 23:58     ` Cong Wang
2019-04-19  0:26       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-20  5:43         ` Cong Wang
2019-04-20  9:13           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-20 18:18             ` Cong Wang
2019-04-20 18:47               ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-20 19:08                 ` Cong Wang [this message]
2019-04-22 16:29                 ` Luck, Tony
2019-04-22 16:31                   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-22 16:43                     ` Luck, Tony
2019-04-22 17:05                       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-22 17:23                         ` Luck, Tony
2019-04-19  0:07     ` Luck, Tony
2019-04-19  0:29       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-19 15:04         ` Luck, Tony
2019-04-20  9:41           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-22 15:59             ` Luck, Tony
2019-04-22 17:15               ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-22 17:44                 ` Luck, Tony
2019-04-22 18:08                   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-20  5:50       ` Cong Wang
2019-04-20 19:50 ` Borislav Petkov

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