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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dbueso@suse.de>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	<stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] hugetlb: fix update_and_free_page contig page struct assumption
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:40:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DD0DAFA7-DFD7-4AB7-B89D-CE09F82B04A5@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210218173200.GA2643399@ziepe.ca>

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On 18 Feb 2021, at 12:32, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 12:27:58PM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>> On 18 Feb 2021, at 12:25, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 02:45:54PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 11:02:52AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 10:49:25 -0800 Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>> page structs are not guaranteed to be contiguous for gigantic pages.  The
>>>>>
>>>>> June 2014.  That's a long lurk time for a bug.  I wonder if some later
>>>>> commit revealed it.
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest that gigantic pages have not seen much use.  Certainly
>>>> performance with Intel CPUs on benchmarks that I've been involved with
>>>> showed lower performance with 1GB pages than with 2MB pages until quite
>>>> recently.
>>>
>>> I suggested in another thread that maybe it is time to consider
>>> dropping this "feature"
>>
>> You mean dropping gigantic page support in hugetlb?
>
> No, I mean dropping support for arches that want to do:
>
>    tail_page != head_page + tail_page_nr
>
> because they can't allocate the required page array either virtually
> or physically contiguously.
>
> It seems like quite a burden on the core mm for a very niche, and
> maybe even non-existant, case.
>
> It was originally done for PPC, can these PPC systems use VMEMMAP now?
>
>>> The cost to fix GUP to be compatible with this will hurt normal
>>> GUP performance - and again, that nobody has hit this bug in GUP
>>> further suggests the feature isn't used..
>>
>> A easy fix might be to make gigantic hugetlb page depends on
>> CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP, which guarantee all struct pages are contiguous.
>
> Yes, exactly.

I actually have a question on CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP. Can we assume
PFN_A - PFN_B == struct_page_A - struct_page_B, meaning all struct pages
are ordered based on physical addresses? I just wonder for two PFN ranges,
e.g., [0 - 128MB], [128MB - 256MB], if it is possible to first online
[128MB - 256MB] then [0 - 128MB] and the struct pages of [128MB - 256MB]
are in front of [0 - 128MB] in the vmemmap due to online ordering.


—
Best Regards,
Yan Zi

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17 18:49 [PATCH 1/2] hugetlb: fix update_and_free_page contig page struct assumption Mike Kravetz
2021-02-17 18:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] hugetlb: fix copy_huge_page_from_user " Mike Kravetz
2021-02-17 19:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] hugetlb: fix update_and_free_page " Andrew Morton
2021-02-17 19:38   ` Mike Kravetz
2021-02-18 14:45   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-18 17:25     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-18 17:27       ` Zi Yan
2021-02-18 17:32         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-18 17:40           ` Zi Yan [this message]
2021-02-18 17:51             ` Mike Kravetz
2021-02-18 18:50               ` Zi Yan
2021-02-18 17:34       ` Mike Kravetz
2021-02-18 21:43         ` Mike Kravetz

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