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From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	Werner.Almesberger@epfl.ch, adam@yggdrasil.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0"
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:11:04 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1001127130308.760B-100000@chaos.analogic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001127182113.A15029@athlon.random>

On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 12:39:55AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
> > Also I believe linkers are allowed to arbitrarily reorder members in
> > the data and bss sections.  I could be wrong on this one though.
> 
> I'm not sure either, but we certainly rely on that behaviour somewhere.
> Just to make an example fs/dquot.c:
> 
> 	int nr_dquots, nr_free_dquots;
> 
> kernel/sysctl.c:
> 
> 	{FS_NRDQUOT, "dquot-nr", &nr_dquots, 2*sizeof(int),
> 
> The above is ok also on mips in practice though.
> 

This code is simply wrong! You can't assume that the declaration of
two variables, no matter how similar, makes them adjacent in
memory! You also can't assume any order. We have good 'C' compilers
that do order things as we assume, however it is only fortuitous, and
not defined any any rule(s).


Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.0 on an i686 machine (799.54 BogoMips).

"Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of
course you get it all back when you reboot..."; Actual explanation
obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-11-27 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-27  8:41 [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0" Werner Almesberger
2000-11-27  5:56 ` Adam J. Richter
2000-11-27  8:39   ` David S. Miller
2000-11-27  9:08     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-27 17:21     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-27 17:36       ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-27 19:06         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-27 19:34           ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-28  0:28             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 11:25               ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-27 21:27         ` Marcus Sundberg
2000-11-28  0:49           ` real_root_dev Andries Brouwer
2000-11-28  3:10         ` [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0" kumon
2000-11-28  3:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28  3:35             ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-28  4:15               ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-28  9:55               ` Andreas Schwab
2000-11-28 15:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 16:09                   ` Andreas Schwab
2000-11-28 19:29                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-28 16:44                   ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-27 18:11       ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2000-11-27 18:01 ` Michael Meissner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-26 17:53 Elmer Joandi
2000-11-26 18:36 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-26 19:11   ` Elmer Joandi
2000-11-26 22:49 ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-26 15:15 Adam J. Richter
2000-11-25 20:19 Andries Brouwer
2000-11-25 21:07 ` Russell King
2000-11-25 21:29   ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26  1:19     ` Russell King
2000-11-25 22:11 ` Herbert Xu
2000-11-25 22:46   ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-25 22:53     ` James A Sutherland
2000-11-25 23:55       ` Tim Waugh
2000-11-26  3:10         ` James A Sutherland
2000-11-26 10:37         ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26 14:52           ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-28  0:01           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-27  4:00         ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-25 23:02     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-26  2:08       ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26  9:22         ` Martin Mares
2000-11-25 23:33     ` Herbert Xu
2000-11-27 10:03     ` Helge Hafting
2000-11-27 20:33     ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-27 22:57       ` Russell King
2000-11-29  1:46         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-11-29  3:21           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-11-29  7:25           ` Russell King
2000-11-25 22:27 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26  1:32   ` Andries Brouwer
2000-11-26  6:21     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-11-26  2:11   ` Georg Nikodym
2000-11-26  4:25     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-26  5:01       ` John Alvord
2000-11-26  5:10         ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-26  6:22           ` Keith Owens
2000-11-26  6:28             ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-26 10:43         ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-26 10:52         ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-24  7:47           ` Pavel Machek
2000-11-26 14:32           ` bert hubert
2000-11-26 10:52         ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-26 14:13       ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-26 20:47       ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-27 21:12         ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-26 15:19     ` Georg Nikodym

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