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From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
Cc: Nayyer Tiger <tigerkhan_1@hotmail.com>,
	faheemullahkhan101@aol.com, zohair420@hotmail.com,
	danish4000@hotmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:36:57 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020318112042.740A-100000@chaos.analogic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0203180809120.2434-100000@dragon.pdx.osdl.net>

On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Randy.Dunlap wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Nayyer Tiger wrote:
> 
> | I see that in the very latest Configure.help version, 2.76, available at
> | http:/www.tuxedo.org/~esr/cml2/
> | Eric has decided to follow the following standard:
> | IEC 60027-2, Second edition, 2000-11, Letter symbols to be used in
> | electrical technology - Part 2: Telecommunications and electronics.
> | and has changed all the abbreviations for Kilobyte (KB) to KiB, Megabyte
> | (MB) to MiB, etc, etc.
> |
> | Now, granted that this is the "standard", should there be some discussion
> | related to this
> | change, or is everyone comfortable with this?  It certainly made me do a
> | double take.
> 
> Either decision will be disliked.  I don't care for the new/standard
> abbreviations, but I can get used to them, and I expect that most
> people can.
> 
> Let's get over it and back to the good stuff.
> 
> ~Randy
> 

Is it a standard or is it something in-process? The reason I ask is
that neither KB nor KiB can possibly be correct.

According to the standards, where capitalization is used:
	(1) For a proper name.
	(2) To differentiate between otherwise identical symbols.

"KB" would mean:

	Kirchoff-Bell

It needs to be:

	"kb" to mean kilobyte.

In any event, I suggest that whatever exists just be left alone.
Both the present and the proposed changes are incorrect. The
present incorrect symbols are widely used, therefore the intent
is known. The proposed symbols are not widely used and will just
aggravate a sore created by Tech-Writers who can't read or write.

We have seen, in recent years, a continual change in English Language
usage where, what was once considered absolutely wrong, is now considered
correct. For instance double-negatives like "irregardless" are now
even codified by insertion into the dictionary. FYI, it is either
"regardless" or "irrespective". It can't be "irregardless".

So, let's let sleeping dogs lie. Oh yes, contractions are now getting
clobbered too. It is now acceptable to spell "dont" without the
apostrophe! I think Alan had something to do with that.... ;)


Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.18 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).

                 Windows-2000/Professional isn't.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-18 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-18 11:31 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Nayyer Tiger
2002-03-18 16:12 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-03-18 16:36   ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2002-03-18 13:53     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-18 17:38     ` Jakob Kemi
2002-03-18 18:24     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-18 18:35       ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-18 19:00         ` Mike Dresser
2002-03-18 19:08           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-18 19:31             ` Chris Friesen
2002-03-18 22:04               ` Mike Dresser
2002-03-18 22:12                 ` Mike Dresser
2002-03-19 11:48             ` Remco Post
2002-03-18 17:04 ` Steven Cole
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203181358540.25105-100000@router.windsormac hine.com>
2002-03-19 14:20 ` Pete Cervasio
2002-03-19 14:36   ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB inConfigure.help Chris Friesen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-08 21:24 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB =?iso-8859-1?q?in Configure=2Ehelp=2E?= Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-08 21:29 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-08 22:15   ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-08 23:03 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-23  9:18 Per Jessen
2001-12-23 16:34 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-22 23:22 Per Jessen
2001-12-23  7:21 ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-23 13:35   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-22  8:39 matthew david reuther
2002-01-08 21:18 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-12-22  2:51 Thomas Hood
2001-12-21 22:55 Stuart Lynne
2001-12-21 19:55 Per Jessen
     [not found] ` <by>
2001-12-22  1:48 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22  4:32   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-22  4:49     ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22  7:57     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-22 18:22       ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 19:54         ` Derek Fawcus
2001-12-22  2:11 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22  4:44   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-22  4:55     ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2001-12-22  5:29   ` Ryan Cumming
2001-12-22  5:53     ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-22 22:41     ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in?Configure.help Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-22 10:53   ` Pekka Pietikäinen
2001-12-21 11:44 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Christian Groessler
2001-12-21 12:50 ` Rene Engelhard
2001-12-21 14:40   ` Reid Hekman
2001-12-21 14:48     ` Rene Engelhard
2001-12-26 19:04       ` Riley Williams
2001-12-21 15:48   ` Mike Jagdis
2001-12-21 16:07     ` Rene Engelhard
2001-12-21 17:43     ` Bob Glamm
2001-12-21 20:50       ` Andreas Ferber
2001-12-20 19:25 RaúlNúñez de Arenas Coronado
2001-12-20 21:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-12-21 23:05   ` Rob Landley
2001-12-20 19:13 Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.hel p Nicholas Knight
2001-12-20 19:41 ` Changing KB, MB, and GB to KiB, MiB, and GiB in Configure.help Mike Harrold
2001-12-21 16:59   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-21 17:50     ` Mike Harrold
2001-12-21 18:41       ` Kent Borg
2001-12-21 18:49         ` lk
2001-12-21 19:12           ` Kent Borg
2001-12-22  4:51       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-12-20 18:02 Steven Cole
2001-12-20 18:16 ` Matt Bernstein
2001-12-20 18:42   ` Randolph Bentson
2001-12-20 19:00     ` Dave Jones
2001-12-20 19:07       ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-20 18:47   ` Michael Dunsky
2001-12-20 19:00     ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-21  1:44   ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-20 18:26 ` Robert Love
2001-12-20 18:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-20 19:32   ` Steven Cole
2001-12-20 19:37     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-20 20:40     ` Marc Schiffbauer
2001-12-20 20:32   ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-12-20 21:05     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-12-20 21:14       ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-12-20 21:25         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-20 22:49         ` Mike Eldridge
2001-12-21 10:58           ` Mike Jagdis
2001-12-26 18:59           ` Riley Williams
2002-01-02 17:17           ` Jonathan Amery
2002-01-02 20:17             ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-03  4:23               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-03 15:46                 ` Timothy Covell
2001-12-24 13:39   ` Lionel Bouton
2001-12-25 11:25     ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-25 20:14       ` Lionel Bouton
2001-12-20 19:49 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-22 10:24   ` Pozsar Balazs
2001-12-22 10:47     ` Phil Howard
2001-12-22 11:30     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-22 20:18       ` Pozsar Balazs
2001-12-23  5:39         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-24 13:21     ` Ian Molton
2001-12-22 16:03   ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-23 10:43   ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-23 12:00     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2001-12-23 16:24   ` Stephen Satchell
2001-12-24 12:37   ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-28 10:25   ` Kai Henningsen

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