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From: David Lang <dlang@diginsite.com>
To: Rob Wilkens <robw@optonline.net>
Cc: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:26:48 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0301121717140.30519-100000@dlang.diginsite.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1042406849.3162.121.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com>

> I've only compiled (and haven't tested this code), but it should be much
> faster than the original code.  Why?  Because we're eliminating an extra
> "jump" in several places in the code every time open would be called.
> Yes, it's more code, so the kernel is a little bigger, but it should be
> faster at the same time, and memory should be less of an issue nowadays.

Rob, one thing you may not have noticed since you haven't been following
the list for a while is that with the current generation of computers size
frequently translates directly into speed and a lot of the time honored
performance tricks that trade size for fewer commands executed end up
being losses.

this can be seen by compiling code with -O2 and with -Os and frequently
the -Os will actually be faster.

This is becouse not all memory is equal, main memory is very slow compared
to the CPU cache, so code that is slightly larger can cause more cache
misses and therefor be slower, even if significantly fewer commands are
executed.

in addition frequently the effect isn't direct (i.e. no noticable
difference on the code you are changing, but instead the change makes
other code slower as it gets evicted from the cache)

unfortunantly while this effect is known the rules of when to optimize for
space and when to optimize for fewer cpu cycles for code execution are not
clear and vary from CPU to CPU frequently within variations of the same
family)

if you google for -Os you should find one of the several discussions on
the list in the last year on the subject.

David Lang

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-13  1:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-10 16:10 any chance of 2.6.0-test*? William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-10 16:28 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 16:41   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-10 17:08     ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-10 16:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:06   ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-10 18:47       ` J.A. Magallon
2003-01-10 19:37         ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-01-10 19:51         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-14  1:39       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-15 21:46         ` [PATCH][RESEND w/ reasonable Subject] alsa before oss in Kconfig James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-10 18:16     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Alan Cox
2003-01-10 17:37   ` Jochen Friedrich
2003-01-10 17:38     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12  9:27   ` Greg KH
2003-01-12 16:55     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 17:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 17:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:34           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:37             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:53               ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:03                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 15:43                   ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 15:49                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:25                       ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:26                         ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:41                           ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:43                             ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 17:00                               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 18:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 22:14                                   ` Keith Owens
2003-01-13 22:42                                     ` John Levon
2003-01-13 22:49                                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 23:32                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13 23:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-12 20:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 20:45                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 13:14                   ` Bernd Schmidt
2003-01-12 21:22                 ` David Woodhouse
2003-01-18 13:04                 ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 19:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:59               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:18                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-12 20:23                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 20:26                   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:32                   ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 20:51                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13  0:54                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 20:46                   ` Kevin Puetz
2003-01-13  0:48                   ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-18 13:07                   ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 20:20                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 20:33                   ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 20:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 10:54                       ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 11:09                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-13 14:34                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 23:23                         ` Bob Taylor
2003-01-12 20:48                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:59                     ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-12 22:48                     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? -> goto example Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13  0:53                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  1:31                         ` Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13 16:10                           ` Alexander Kellett
2003-01-14 10:36                             ` Helge Hafting
2003-01-12 23:11                     ` Coding style - (Was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) John Bradford
2003-01-13 11:07                     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Helge Hafting
2003-01-13  3:30                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 21:29                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-13  0:03                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-13  0:38                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  3:06                     ` [OT] " J Sloan
2003-01-13 16:51                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:38                 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 19:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:41               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:58                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:07                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:31                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 20:34                     ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:31             ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 21:02               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:15             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-12 21:27               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:44                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:49                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:07                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:18                         ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:34                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:52                             ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 23:11                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:31                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:39                                 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:46                                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:57                                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:08                                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 16:02                                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-12 22:53                             ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 23:06                             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:48                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:58                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:12                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:29                         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-12 23:21                         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 22:12                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:18                       ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:35                         ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  8:15                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-12 21:49                 ` David Ford
2003-01-13 19:22                   ` [OffTopic] [apology] " Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:59                 ` Adam Kropelin
2003-01-12 22:21                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:33                     ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 22:36                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:38                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:42                     ` romieu
2003-01-13  1:06                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-13  1:21                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  1:51                         ` Nuno Monteiro
2003-01-13  2:19                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  2:51                             ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-13  3:37                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  4:53                               ` Billy Rose
2003-01-13  3:06                             ` Jochen Striepe
2003-01-13  3:40                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  9:45                             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  3:48                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  4:37                   ` Billy Rose
2003-01-12 22:06                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:22                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:43                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:51                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:00                         ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-12 23:05                         ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:23                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13 20:01                             ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-12 23:16                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-13  2:00                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  3:09                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-14  2:13                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 22:58                     ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 22:28                 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  1:26                 ` David Lang [this message]
2003-01-13  2:00                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 11:08                 ` How to avoid the woord 'goto' (was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-01-13 14:56                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 22:02                 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Val Henson
2003-01-13 10:32             ` gotos in kernel [Was: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?] Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 14:53               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 13:08             ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Dave Jones
2003-01-13 13:40               ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-13 13:49               ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-14  6:52               ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-14  7:12                 ` Brian Tinsley
2003-01-13 15:23             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13  6:23           ` Greg KH
2003-01-13 16:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 18:33               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 19:17                 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-12 17:37       ` Russell King
2003-01-13  1:08 ` Michael Kingsbury
2003-01-13  1:52   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-10 16:39 Shawn Starr
2003-01-10 17:00 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-11 20:10 ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <20030110144325.T26554@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
     [not found] ` <20030110.130023.08256524.davem@redhat.com>
2003-01-10 21:48   ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found] <20030110165441$1a8a@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030110165505$38d9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-11 12:27   ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 13:01     ` Russell King
2003-01-11 13:13       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 14:39     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 14:06       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 15:31         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 15:25           ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 19:18             ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13  3:33               ` Paul Mackerras
2003-01-13 14:59                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:36                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-19 16:05         ` Pavel Machek
2003-01-12 18:02 David Truog
     [not found] <3C6BEE8B5E1BAC42905A93F13004E8AB017DE60F@mailse01.axis.se>
2003-01-12 20:58 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 20:37 Manfred Spraul
2003-01-13 22:37 Albert D. Cahalan
     [not found] <20030112201009$1534@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030112204005$7287@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 19:53   ` Kai Henningsen
2003-01-15 15:07     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-15 15:18       ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-18 10:12       ` Kai Henningsen
2003-01-15 19:44     ` Werner Almesberger
     [not found] <20030112205008$7a5d@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113112009$52fd@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113144017$68de@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 20:01     ` Kai Henningsen
     [not found] <20030112193012$71b2@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113020015$6883@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]       ` <20030113035007$451e@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 20:18         ` Kai Henningsen
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     [not found] ` <20030113005007$4766@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113170014$20a1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-18 10:21     ` Kai Henningsen

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