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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUGFIX] PM: Fix active child counting when disabled and forbidden
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:17:17 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1211061010390.1430-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1352162625.31033.127.camel@yhuang-dev>

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012, Huang Ying wrote:

> On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 20:56 -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Nov 2012, Huang Ying wrote:
> > 
> > > In current runtime PM implementation, the active child count of the
> > > parent device may be decreased if the runtime PM of the child device
> > > is disabled and forbidden.  For example, to unbind a PCI driver with a
> > > PCI device, the following code path is possible:
> > > 
> > >   pci_device_remove
> > >     pm_runtime_set_suspended
> > >       __pm_runtime_set_status
> > >         atomic_add_unless(&parent->power.child_count, -1, 0)
> > > 
> > > That is, the parent device may be suspended, even if the runtime PM of
> > > child device is forbidden to be suspended.  This violate the rule that
> > > parent is allowed to be suspended only after all its children are
> > > suspended, and may cause issue.
> > 
> > This doesn't sound like a correct description of the situation.  The 
> > rule is not violated.  After pm_runtime_set_suspended runs, the child 
> > _is_ suspended.  Thus there's no reason not to allow the parent to be 
> > suspended.
> > 
> > The problem -- if there really is one -- is that a driver can put a 
> > device into the suspended state by calling pm_runtime_disable followed 
> > by pm_runtime_set_suspended, even if the usage count is > 0.
> > 
> > I'm not so sure this should count as a problem.  Generally devices 
> > aren't disabled for runtime PM unless something is wrong.
> 
> Devices will be disabled if the PCI driver is unbound from the PCI
> device.

Yes.  But without a PCI driver, nothing will call 
pm_runtime_set_suspended.  And even if something does call 
pm_runtime_set_suspended, it's still not a problem -- the device can't 
be used without a driver.

> So I think the rule could be: even if the device is suspended, the
> device can be put into suspended state only if its usage count == 0.  In
> this way, we can solve the issue for PCI driver unbound and that looks
> more reasonable.

You still have not shown that there really is a problem.  Do you have 
any particular use case in mind?

Alan Stern


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-06 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-05  1:17 [BUGFIX] PM: Fix active child counting when disabled and forbidden Huang Ying
2012-11-05  1:56 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-06  0:43   ` Huang Ying
2012-11-06 15:17     ` Alan Stern [this message]
2012-11-07  0:26       ` Huang Ying
2012-11-07 15:49         ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 16:09           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 17:17             ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 20:21               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 20:47                 ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 21:44                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 21:56                     ` Alan Stern
2012-11-07 22:51                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 23:09                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08  1:15                           ` Huang Ying
2012-11-08  1:35                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08  2:04                               ` Huang Ying
2012-11-08  9:56                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 17:07                                   ` Alan Stern
2012-11-09  2:36                                     ` Huang Ying
2012-11-09 16:41                                       ` Alan Stern
2012-11-12  0:37                                         ` Huang Ying
2012-11-12  2:36                                           ` Alan Stern
2012-11-12  5:55                                             ` Huang Ying
2012-11-12 16:32                                               ` Alan Stern
2012-11-13  1:19                                                 ` Huang Ying
2012-11-13  2:32                                                   ` Alan Stern
2012-11-13  5:12                                                     ` Huang Ying
2012-11-13 16:10                                                       ` Alan Stern
2012-11-14  1:08                                                         ` Huang Ying
2012-11-14  9:52                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 13:35                                                             ` Huang Ying
2012-11-14 16:06                                                               ` Alan Stern
2012-11-13 23:43                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 10:05                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 16:42                                       ` Alan Stern
2012-11-14 19:42                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 21:45                                           ` Alan Stern
2012-11-14 23:10                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-15  1:03                                               ` Huang Ying
2012-11-15  9:51                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-15 10:09                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-15 15:27                                                     ` Alan Stern
2012-11-16  0:36                                                   ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16  0:44                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16  0:48                                                       ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16  0:55                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16  0:54                                                         ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16  1:29                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16  1:27                                                             ` Huang Ying
2012-11-16 10:10                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16  3:11                                                   ` Huang Ying

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