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From: "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>,
	Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: lsscsi-0.17 released
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:38:28 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0602220835440.8025@shark.he.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060222163426.GG28587@parisc-linux.org>

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 11:27:16AM -0500, Douglas Gilbert wrote:
> > Matthias Andree wrote:
> > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Douglas Gilbert wrote:
> > >>Matthias Andree wrote:
> > >>>Does this work around new incompatibilities in the kernel
> > >>>or does this fix lsscsi bugs?
> > >>
> > >>The former. In lk 2.6.16-rc1 the
> > >>/sys/class/scsi_device/<hcil>/device/block symlink
> > >>changed to ".../block:sd<x>" breaking lsscsi 0.16 (and
> > >>earlier) and sg_map26 (in sg3_utils).
> > >
> > > Heck, what was the reason for breaking userspace again?
> >
> > Maybe the person responsible can answer. I'm only reacting
> > to a change that broke two of my utilities.
>
> Probably better to cc the person responsible if you want an answer.
>
> > > Why would someone even consider using sysfs at all if it changes
> > > incompatibly?
> >
> > Indeed.
>
> There seems to be no committment to making sysfs a stable part of the
> kernel API.  Which is really just another way of saying "we can't be
> bothered to design it upfront, we'll just let it evolve into a mess
> and then try to fix it afterwards".

I sorta hate to say this, but I was sitting/working a few feet
from Pat Mochel about 4 years ago when he was beginning on sysfs,
and I told him to watch out, it could end up a mess just like
procfs... :(

-- 
~Randy

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-22 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-21 23:39 lsscsi-0.17 released Douglas Gilbert
2006-02-22  8:50 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-22 15:01   ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-02-22 16:06     ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-22 16:27       ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-02-22 16:34         ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-02-22 16:38           ` Randy.Dunlap [this message]
2006-02-22 17:14           ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 18:00             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-22 18:32               ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 20:22                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-22 17:59 Douglas Gilbert
2006-02-22 18:37 ` Greg KH

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