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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched: async unthrottling for cfs bandwidth
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 09:15:33 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2FwVX42LIKXSTz3@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABk29Ns1VWEVRYENud4CW3JQPrcr79i_F2PBTANqt3t-LaYCfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 12:11:30PM -0700, Josh Don wrote:
> > Just to better understand the situation, can you give some more details on
> > the scenarios where cgroup_mutex was in the middle of a shitshow?
> 
> There have been a couple, I think one of the main ones has been writes
> to cgroup.procs. cpuset modifications also show up since there's a
> mutex there.

If you can, I'd really like to learn more about the details. We've had some
issues with the threadgroup_rwsem because it's such a big hammer but not
necessarily with cgroup_mutex because they are only used in maintenance
operations and never from any hot paths.

Regarding threadgroup_rwsem, w/ CLONE_INTO_CGROUP (userspace support is
still missing unfortunately), the usual worfklow of creating a cgroup,
seeding it with a process and then later shutting it down doesn't involve
threadgroup_rwsem at all, so most of the problems should go away in the
hopefully near future.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-01 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-26 22:44 [PATCH v2] sched: async unthrottling for cfs bandwidth Josh Don
2022-10-31 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-31 21:22   ` Josh Don
2022-10-31 21:50     ` Tejun Heo
2022-10-31 23:15       ` Josh Don
2022-10-31 23:53         ` Tejun Heo
2022-11-01  1:01           ` Josh Don
2022-11-01  1:45             ` Tejun Heo
2022-11-01 19:11               ` Josh Don
2022-11-01 19:15                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2022-11-01 20:56                   ` Josh Don
2022-11-01 21:49                     ` Tejun Heo
2022-11-01 21:59                       ` Josh Don
2022-11-01 22:38                         ` Tejun Heo
2022-11-02 17:10                           ` Michal Koutný
2022-11-02 17:18                             ` Tejun Heo
2022-10-31 21:56   ` Benjamin Segall
2022-11-02  8:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-11  0:14       ` Josh Don
2022-11-02 16:59 ` Michal Koutný
2022-11-03  0:10   ` Josh Don
2022-11-03 10:11     ` Michal Koutný
2022-11-16  3:01   ` Josh Don
2022-11-16  9:57     ` Michal Koutný
2022-11-16 21:45       ` Josh Don

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