From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Andrey Semashev <andrey.semashev@gmail.com>
Cc: "Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@collabora.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/15] Add futex2 syscalls
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 15:27:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YL9wROdz4y/pETA1@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3fca0afa-d9db-a176-aad1-ff7db21ba4a2@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 04:18:42PM +0300, Andrey Semashev wrote:
> On 6/8/21 3:35 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 03:06:48PM +0300, Andrey Semashev wrote:
> > > On 6/8/21 2:13 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> >
> > > > So what's keeping the futex2 code from doing all that futex1 does so
> > > > that the futex1 code can be deleted internally?
> > >
> > > I think, André will answer this, but my guess is, as stated above, this is a
> > > lot of work and time while the intermediate version is already useful.
> >
> > useful to who? I still do not understand what users will be needing
> > this. All I can tell is a single userspace program wants to use it, and
> > that is a fork from the real project it was based on and that the
> > maintainers have no plan to merge it back.
> >
> > So who does need/want this?
>
> I mentioned C++ std::atomic and Boost.Atomic before. Those need variable
> sized futexes.
And has anyone converted them to use this new api to see if it works
well or not?
As was pointed out to me numerous times when I tried to propose
readfile(), you need a real user that can show and prove it is needed
before we can take new syscalls, especially complex beasts like this
one.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-08 13:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-03 19:59 [PATCH v4 00/15] Add futex2 syscalls André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] futex2: Implement wait and wake functions André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] futex2: Add support for shared futexes André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] futex2: Implement vectorized wait André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] futex2: Implement requeue operation André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] futex2: Implement support for different futex sizes André Almeida
2021-06-04 0:23 ` kernel test robot
2021-06-06 19:12 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2021-06-06 23:01 ` Andrey Semashev
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] futex2: Add compatibility entry point for x86_x32 ABI André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] docs: locking: futex2: Add documentation André Almeida
2021-06-06 19:23 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] selftests: futex2: Add wake/wait test André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] selftests: futex2: Add timeout test André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] selftests: futex2: Add wouldblock test André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] selftests: futex2: Add waitv test André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] selftests: futex2: Add requeue test André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] selftests: futex2: Add futex sizes test André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] perf bench: Add futex2 benchmark tests André Almeida
2021-06-03 19:59 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] kernel: Enable waitpid() for futex2 André Almeida
2021-06-04 4:51 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] Add futex2 syscalls Zebediah Figura
2021-06-04 17:04 ` André Almeida
2021-06-04 11:36 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-04 20:01 ` André Almeida
2021-06-05 1:09 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-05 8:56 ` Andrey Semashev
2021-06-06 11:57 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-06 13:15 ` Andrey Semashev
2021-06-08 1:25 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-08 11:03 ` Andrey Semashev
2021-06-08 11:13 ` Greg KH
2021-06-08 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-08 14:31 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2021-06-08 12:06 ` Andrey Semashev
2021-06-08 12:33 ` Greg KH
2021-06-08 12:35 ` Greg KH
2021-06-08 13:18 ` Andrey Semashev
2021-06-08 13:27 ` Greg KH [this message]
2021-06-08 13:41 ` Andrey Semashev
2021-06-08 17:06 ` Zebediah Figura
2021-06-08 14:14 ` André Almeida
2021-06-07 15:40 ` André Almeida
2021-06-08 1:31 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-08 2:33 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2021-06-08 4:45 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-08 12:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2021-06-08 14:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-08 14:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2021-06-08 15:04 ` André Almeida
2021-06-08 18:08 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-06-08 18:19 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-08 18:22 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-06-09 16:26 ` David Laight
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