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From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: XFS for 2.4
Date: 3 Dec 2003 20:51:49 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bqlid5$jji$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20031202182037.GD17045@work.bitmover.com

In article <20031202182037.GD17045@work.bitmover.com>,
Larry McVoy  <lm@bitmover.com> wrote:

| This is a process.  The process is supposed to screen out bad change.
| Maybe XFS got into 2.5/2.6 inspite of the process rather than because
| of it.  Maybe not.  Whatever the answer is, it's perfectly reasonable
| for the maintainer of the 2.4 tree to want someone he trusts to step
| forward and say "yeah, it's fine".  The fact that other VFS people
| aren't jumping up and down and saying this should go in is troublesome.
| If I were Marcelo the more the XFS people push without visible backing
| from someone with a clear vision of the VFS layer the more I'd push back.
| 
| Don't get me wrong, I have not looked at or used XFS in years.  I have
| no opinion about it at this point.  But I do have an opinion about process
| and what is going on here, in my opinion, violates the Linux development
| process.  Patches shouldn't go in just because you want them in, they go
| in because the maintainer chooses to bless them or someone he trusts chooses
| to bless them.

It has been my experience that a few hundred normal users actually
running code without problems is a LOT more reliable predictor of
stable operation than any one person reading the code and saying it
looks good. Users check out the exception handling paths better ;-)

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-03 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-02 17:45 XFS for 2.4 Murthy Kambhampaty
2003-12-02 17:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-03 20:10   ` bill davidsen
2003-12-02 18:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 19:10   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-03  0:13     ` Eric Sandall
2003-12-03 20:12       ` bill davidsen
2003-12-02 18:02 ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-02 18:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20031202181146.A27567@adic.com>
2003-12-02 18:19       ` Steve Lord
2003-12-02 18:20     ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-02 18:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-02 18:27         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-02 19:12           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 20:10             ` Nathan Scott
2003-12-02 20:11         ` viro
2003-12-03 20:51       ` bill davidsen [this message]
2003-12-03 20:44   ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 21:06     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-03 22:07     ` grundig
2003-12-03 22:48       ` bill davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-04  1:27 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-12-04  2:40 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-12-02 18:34 Murthy Kambhampaty
2003-12-01  6:20 Nathan Scott
2003-12-01  9:24 ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-01  9:44   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2003-12-01  9:45     ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-01 14:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-01 22:10   ` Nathan Scott
2003-12-01 22:20     ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-02  0:23       ` Nathan Scott
2003-12-02 11:22         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 18:05           ` Austin Gonyou
2003-12-02 19:55           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-12-02 20:05             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 20:16             ` Lawrence Walton
2003-12-03 19:01           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 20:45             ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-03 21:17               ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 21:48                 ` Joel Becker
2003-12-03 22:17                   ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 22:08                 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-04  5:21                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-04  0:34               ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-04  5:33                 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-04 10:13                   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-02 11:18     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 11:48       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 15:34       ` Russell Cattelan
2003-12-02 15:50         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 16:10           ` Darrell Michaud
2003-12-02 16:21             ` Austin Gonyou
2003-12-02 16:28             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-02 16:57               ` venom
2003-12-02 17:41               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2003-12-02 18:01           ` Russell Cattelan
2003-12-02 16:13         ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-12-02  0:51   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-02  1:26     ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2003-12-01 21:00 ` Dan Yocum
2003-12-01 21:50   ` Bryan Whitehead
2003-12-01 22:01     ` Jeffrey E. Hundstad
2003-12-01 22:13     ` Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
2003-12-02  2:54     ` Joshua Schmidlkofer
2003-12-02 11:02   ` Maciej Soltysiak

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