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From: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: "lenb@kernel.org" <lenb@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on action required events
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 19:40:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c407cfb5-ccec-adca-47dd-437846f2f2f8@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6eb3c5f4-2198-d501-7320-ea6209a63465@linux.alibaba.com>



在 2022/11/2 PM7:53, Shuai Xue 写道:
> 
> 
> 在 2022/10/29 AM1:25, Luck, Tony 写道:
>>>> cper_sec_mem_err::error_type identifies the type of error that occurred
>>>> if CPER_MEM_VALID_ERROR_TYPE is set. So, set memory failure flags as 0
>>>> for Scrub Uncorrected Error (type 14). Otherwise, set memory failure
>>>> flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED.
>>
>> On x86 the "action required" cases are signaled by a synchronous machine check
>> that is delivered before the instruction that is attempting to consume the uncorrected
>> data retires. I.e., it is guaranteed that the uncorrected error has not been propagated
>> because it is not visible in any architectural state.
> 
> On arm, if a 2-bit (uncorrectable) error is detected, and the memory access has been
> architecturally executed, that error is considered “consumed”. The CPU will take a
> synchronous error exception, signaled as synchronous external abort (SEA), which is
> analogously to MCE.
> 
>>
>> APEI signaled errors don't fall into that category on x86 ... the uncorrected data
>> could have been consumed and propagated long before the signaling used for
>> APEI can alert the OS.
>>
>> Does ARM deliver APEI signals synchronously?
>>
>> If not, then this patch might deliver a false sense of security to applications
>> about the state of uncorrected data in the system.
>>
> 
> Well, it does not always. There are many APEI notification, such as SCI, GSIV, GPIO,
> SDEI, SEA, etc. Not all APEI notifications are synchronously and it depends on
> hardware signal. As far as I know, if a UE is detected and consumed, synchronous external
> abort is signaled to firmware and firmware then performs a first-level triage and
> synchronously notify OS by SDEI or SEA notification. On the other hand, if CE is
> detected, a asynchronous interrupt will be signaled and firmware could notify OS
> by GPIO or GSIV.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Shuai
> 
> 


Hi, Tony,

Prefetch data with UE error triggers async interrupt on both X86 and Arm64 platform
(CMCI in X86 and SPI in arm64). It does not belongs to scrub UEs. I have to admit that
cper_sec_mem_err::error_type is not an appropriate basis to distinguish
"action required" cases.



acpi_hest_generic_data::flags (UEFI spec section N.2.2) could be used to indicate
Action Optional (Scrub/Prefetch).

	Bit 5 – Latent error: If set this flag indicates that action has been
	taken to ensure error containment (such a poisoning data), but
	the error has not been fully corrected and the data has not been
	consumed. System software may choose to take further
	corrective action before the data is consumed.

Our hardware team has submitted a proposal to UEFI community to add a new bit:

	Bit 8 – sync flag; if set this flag indicates that
	this event record is synchronous(e.g. cpu
	core consumes poison data, then cause
	instruction/data abort); if not set, this event
	record is asynchronous.

With bit 8, we will know it is "Action Required".


I will send a new patch set to rework GHES error handling after the proposal is accept.


Thank you.

Best Regards
Shuai





  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-27  4:24 [PATCH] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on action required events Shuai Xue
2022-10-28 17:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-10-28 17:25   ` Luck, Tony
2022-11-02 11:53     ` Shuai Xue
2022-11-22 11:40       ` Shuai Xue [this message]
2022-11-02  7:07   ` Shuai Xue
2022-12-06 15:33 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2022-12-07  9:54   ` reply for " Lv Ying
2022-12-07 12:34     ` Bixuan Cui
2022-12-07 12:56     ` Shuai Xue
2022-12-07 14:04       ` Shuai Xue
2022-12-08  2:27         ` Lv Ying
2022-12-06 15:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2022-12-06 15:33 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] ACPI: APEI: separate synchronous error handling into task work Shuai Xue
2023-02-27  5:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-03-06  0:45   ` Shuai Xue
2023-02-27  5:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-03-16  7:21   ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2023-03-16  9:57     ` Shuai Xue
2023-03-16 16:45       ` Luck, Tony
2023-03-17  1:12         ` Shuai Xue
2023-02-27  5:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-03-16  7:21   ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2023-03-16 11:10     ` Shuai Xue
2023-03-17  0:29       ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)
2023-03-17  1:24         ` Shuai Xue
2023-03-17  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-03-20 18:03   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-03-30  6:11     ` Shuai Xue
2023-03-30  9:52       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-03-21  7:17   ` mawupeng
2023-03-22  1:27     ` Shuai Xue
2023-03-17  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-03-17  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-04-06 12:39   ` Xiaofei Tan
2023-04-07  2:21     ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-08  9:13 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-04-08  9:13 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-04-08  9:13 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-04-11  1:44   ` Xiaofei Tan
2023-04-11  3:16     ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-11  9:02       ` Xiaofei Tan
2023-04-11  9:48         ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-11 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-04-11 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-04-11 14:17   ` Kefeng Wang
2023-04-12  2:54     ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-12  3:55   ` Xiaofei Tan
2023-04-13  1:42     ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-11 10:48 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-04-11 14:28   ` Kefeng Wang
2023-04-12  2:58     ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-12  4:05   ` Xiaofei Tan
2023-04-13  1:49     ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-12 11:27 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-04-12 11:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-04-12 11:28 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-04-17  1:14 ` [PATCH v7 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-04-24  6:24   ` Shuai Xue
2023-05-08  1:55     ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-17  1:14 ` [PATCH v7 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-04-17  1:14 ` [PATCH v7 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-09-19  2:21 ` [RESEND PATCH v8 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous errors in task work with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-09-19  2:21 ` [RESEND PATCH v8 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-09-25 14:43   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26  6:23     ` Shuai Xue
2023-09-19  2:21 ` [RESEND PATCH v8 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-09-25 15:00   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26  6:38     ` Shuai Xue
2023-10-03  8:28   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2023-10-07  2:01     ` Shuai Xue
2023-10-07  7:28 ` [PATCH v9 0/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous errors in task work with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-11-21  1:48   ` Shuai Xue
2023-11-23 15:07   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-25  6:44     ` Shuai Xue
2023-11-25 12:10       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-26 12:25         ` Shuai Xue
2023-11-29 18:54           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-30  2:58             ` Shuai Xue
2023-11-30 14:40               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-30 17:43                 ` James Morse
2023-12-01  2:58                   ` Shuai Xue
2023-11-30 17:39             ` James Morse
2023-12-01  3:37               ` Shuai Xue
2023-10-07  7:28 ` [PATCH v9 1/2] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-11-30 17:39   ` James Morse
2023-12-01  5:22     ` Shuai Xue
2023-10-07  7:28 ` [PATCH v9 2/2] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-11-30 17:39   ` James Morse
2023-12-01  7:03     ` Shuai Xue
2023-12-18  6:45 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous errors in task work with proper si_code Shuai Xue
2023-12-18  6:45 ` [PATCH v10 1/4] ACPI: APEI: set memory failure flags as MF_ACTION_REQUIRED on synchronous events Shuai Xue
2023-12-18  6:53   ` Greg KH
2023-12-21 13:55   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-12-22  1:07     ` Shuai Xue
2023-12-18  6:45 ` [PATCH v10 2/4] ACPI: APEI: send SIGBUS to current task if synchronous memory error not recovered Shuai Xue
2023-12-18  6:54   ` Greg KH
2023-12-18  6:45 ` [PATCH v10 3/4] mm: memory-failure: move memory_failure() return value documentation to function declaration Shuai Xue
2023-12-18  6:54   ` Greg KH
2023-12-18  6:45 ` [PATCH v10 4/4] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work Shuai Xue
2023-12-18  6:54   ` Greg KH
2024-02-04  8:01 ` [PATCH v11 0/3] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work to send correct SIGBUS si_code Shuai Xue
2024-02-19  1:46   ` Shuai Xue
2024-02-04  8:01 ` [PATCH v11 1/3] ACPI: APEI: send SIGBUS to current task if synchronous memory error not recovered Shuai Xue
2024-02-19  9:25   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-22  2:07     ` Shuai Xue
2024-02-23  5:26       ` Dan Williams
2024-02-23 12:08         ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-23 12:17           ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-24  6:08             ` Shuai Xue
2024-02-26 10:29               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-27  1:23                 ` Shuai Xue
2024-02-24 19:42             ` Dan Williams
2024-02-24 19:40     ` Dan Williams
2024-02-04  8:01 ` [PATCH v11 2/3] mm: memory-failure: move return value documentation to function declaration Shuai Xue
2024-02-26 10:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-02-27  1:27     ` Shuai Xue
2024-02-04  8:01 ` [PATCH v11 3/3] ACPI: APEI: handle synchronous exceptions in task work to send correct SIGBUS si_code Shuai Xue
2024-02-29  7:05   ` Shuai Xue
2024-03-08 10:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-03-12  6:05     ` Shuai Xue

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