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From: Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
Cc: Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	Tim Gover <tim.gover@raspberrypi.com>,
	Phil Elwell <phil@raspberrypi.com>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Allow the driver to be probed by DT
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:57:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d19470274ef0dc8198fab35b039edb68a02f0358.camel@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200226150113.oqymkr6h2cxs2uia@gilmour.lan>

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Hi Maxime,

On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 16:01 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote:

[...]

> This was actually a shameless bait to start that discussion, so I'm
> glad it worked ;)

:)

[...]

> > - Some of those fw managed clocks you're creating have their mmio
> > counterpart
> >   being registered by clk-bcm238. IMO either register one or the other,
> > giving
> >   precedence to the mmio counterpart. Note that for pllb, we deleted the
> >   relevant code from clk-bcm2385.
> 
> Indeed, and it's really that part of the discussion I wanted to
> start. For some reason, it looks like a good chunk of those clocks are
> non-functional at the moment (they all report 0).

Yes, although they should be alright. I think it's just a matter of passing the
right flags to the clk framework (disable caching and so on), but never found
the time to investigate further.

> If we're going to
> use the firmware clocks as I did here, we'd have to modify most of the
> device clocks used so far (UART, especially) to derive from the core
> clock. I wasn't really sure of the implications though, since it's my first
> experience with the RPi clock tree.

That's something I'm confused about. I played around with your code and the HSM
clock changes seem to be completely unrelated to the VPU clock. Actually it
seems it's derived from 'plld_per' (here Florian can maybe contradict me). I
found out by feeding the mmio HSM clock to your driver, which actually seemed
to work (albeit maybe just out of luck since the FW already set up everything).

Bare in mind, we disable turbo mode upstream so as for the firmware not to
change the VPU frequencies on par with CPU changes (controlled by a special bit
in the CPU clock mailbox property). So, if I'm not wrong, this simplifies
things. As we don't have to worry about re-clocking all peripherals with every
resolution change.

This even opens up another question. Which clocks is the firmware interface
monitoring for DVFS? If it's just the VPU and CPU we could be over-complicating
things here, and MMIO clks could be an option, isn't it?

On the subject of re-clocking, I had a word with the clk maintainers on how to
properly implement it, see the two last paragraphs here if curious:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-clk/msg36937.html

> > - The same way we were able to map the fw CPU clock into the clk tree
> >   (pllb/pllb_arm) there are no reasons we shouldn't be able to do the same
> > for
> >   the VPU clocks. It's way nicer and less opaque to users (this being a
> >   learning platform adds to the argument).
> 
> This would make the Linux clock tree match the one in hardware, which
> would indeed be more readable to a beginner, but I see three main
> drawbacks with this:
> 
>   - The parent / child relationship is already encoded in the firmware
>     discovery mechanism. It's not used yet by the driver, because the
>     firmware reports all of them as root clocks, but that's pretty
>     easy to fix.

Had a look at this, they all return root as their parent. Which is somewhat
true from the fw interface perspective (only leaves are represented), but not
too endearing.

>   - It would make the code far more complicated and confusing than it
>     could, especially to beginners. And as far as I know, only the RPi
>     is doing that, while pretty much all the other platforms either
>     have the clock tree entirely defined, or rely on the firmware, but
>     don't have an hybrid. So they would learn something that cannot
>     really be applied to anywhere else.

Fair enough. Still, for now, I think I prefer a hybrid clk tree approach.

>   - I have no idea what the clock tree is supposed to look like :)

I don't have access to the official clock tree either. The closest we have is
whatever the mmio clk driver exposes.

> > - On top of that, having a special case for the CPU clock registration is
> >   nasty. Lets settle for one solution and make everyone follow it.
> 
> It seemed to me that the CPU clock had a factor between the actual CPU
> frequency and its clock? If not, then yeah we should definitely get
> rid of it.

Yes, IIRC, there is a factor because the CPU clock firmware interface actually
controls the underlying PLL frequency which is then divided by 2 before
reaching the CPU. Which kind of breaks the FW interface design if you ask
me (alongside this turbo mode thing).

> > - I don't see what's so bad about creating clock lookups. IIUC there are
> > only
> >   two clocks that need this special handling CPU & HDMI, It's manageable.
> > You
> >   don't even have to mess with the consumer driver, if there was ever to be
> > a
> >   dt provided mmio option to this clock.
> 
> V3D needs one too, and I might have missed a bunch of them in that
> series given how the current debugging of the remaining issues turn
> out to be.

Would be nice to see if V3D is also affected by DVFS, and the rest of clocks
for that matter.

> And clk_lookups are local to devices, so you need to factor that by the
> number of devices you have. Sure, it works, but it feels to me like that's
> going to be an issue pretty fast, especially with the lookups on the way out?

I see your point, TBH I don't mind moving it into the device-tree if things are
going to get nasty.


> > >  drivers/clk/bcm/clk-raspberrypi.c | 11 ++++++++---
> > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/clk/bcm/clk-raspberrypi.c b/drivers/clk/bcm/clk-
> > > raspberrypi.c
> > > index 1654fd0eedc9..94870234824c 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/clk/bcm/clk-raspberrypi.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/clk/bcm/clk-raspberrypi.c
> > > @@ -255,15 +255,13 @@ static int raspberrypi_clk_probe(struct
> > > platform_device
> > > *pdev)
> > >  	struct raspberrypi_clk *rpi;
> > >  	int ret;
> > > 
> > > -	firmware_node = of_find_compatible_node(NULL, NULL,
> > > -					"raspberrypi,bcm2835-firmware");
> > > +	firmware_node = of_parse_phandle(dev->of_node, "raspberrypi,firmware",
> > > 0);
> > 
> > There is no such phandle in the upstream device tree. Maybe this was aimed
> > at
> > the downstream dt?
> 
> raspberrypi,firmware is the property, it points to the /soc/firmware
> node that is defined in bcm2835-rpi.dtsi

Yes, my bad. On that topic, I kind of like Robh's suggestion of making this
driver a child of the firmware node (see an example in
input/touchscreen/raspberrypi-ts.c).

Regards,
Nicolas


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-28 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-24  9:06 [PATCH 00/89] drm/vc4: Support BCM2711 Display Pipeline Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 01/89] dt-bindings: i2c: brcmstb: Convert the BRCMSTB binding to a schema Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 17:40   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-02-25 18:14   ` Rob Herring
2020-03-10 10:07   ` Wolfram Sang
2020-03-10 10:07   ` Wolfram Sang
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 02/89] dt-bindings: i2c: brcmstb: Add BCM2711 BSC/AUTO-I2C binding Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 17:48   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-02-25 18:15   ` Rob Herring
2020-03-10 10:07   ` Wolfram Sang
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 03/89] i2c: brcmstb: Support BCM2711 HDMI BSC controllers Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 17:44   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-03-10 10:12   ` Wolfram Sang
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 04/89] i2c: brcmstb: Allow to compile it on BCM2835 Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 17:39   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-03-10 10:16   ` Wolfram Sang
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 05/89] clk: Return error code when of provider pointer is NULL Maxime Ripard
2020-03-12 23:13   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 06/89] dt-bindings: clock: Add a binding for the RPi Firmware clocks Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:16   ` Rob Herring
2020-03-12 23:14     ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 07/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Allow the driver to be probed by DT Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:00   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-02-26 15:01     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-02-28 19:57       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne [this message]
2020-03-01 12:16   ` Stefan Wahren
2020-03-23 15:13     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 08/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Statically init clk_init_data Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:05   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 09/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Use clk_hw_register for pllb_arm Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:11   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-12 23:17   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 10/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Remove global pllb_arm clock pointer Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:13   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-02-26 14:26     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-02-26 14:57       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 11/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Make sure pllb_arm is removed Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:14   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-12 23:20   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 12/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Remove pllb_arm_lookup global pointer Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:16   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-12 23:21   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-03-13  1:13   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 13/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Switch to clk_hw_register_clkdev Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:17   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-13  1:12   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 14/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Make sure the clkdev lookup is removed Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:19   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-13  1:11   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 15/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Create a data structure for the clocks Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:24   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-13  1:11   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 16/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Add clock id to data Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 19:25   ` Stefan Wahren
2020-02-25  9:54     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 14:33       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-02-25 16:24   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-13  1:11   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 17/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Pass the clocks data to the firmware function Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:26   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-13  1:09   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 18/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Rename is_prepared function Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 16:45   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-03-13  1:09   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 19/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Split pllb clock hooks Maxime Ripard
2020-03-13  1:08   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 20/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Make the PLLB registration function return a clk_hw Maxime Ripard
2020-03-13  1:01   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 21/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Add DT provider for the clocks Maxime Ripard
2020-03-13  1:01   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 22/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Discover the firmware clocks Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 16:47   ` kbuild test robot
2020-02-24 16:47   ` [PATCH] clk: bcm: rpi: fix noderef.cocci warnings kbuild test robot
2020-02-24 18:15   ` [PATCH 22/89] clk: bcm: rpi: Discover the firmware clocks Florian Fainelli
2020-02-26 14:15     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 20:24   ` kbuild test robot
2020-03-13  1:08   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 23/89] ARM: dts: bcm2711: Add firmware clocks node Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 24/89] reset: Move reset-simple header out of drivers/reset Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 25/89] reset: simple: Add reset callback Maxime Ripard
2020-03-04 12:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 26/89] dt-bindings: clock: Add BCM2711 DVP binding Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:17   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 27/89] clk: bcm: Add BCM2711 DVP driver Maxime Ripard
2020-03-13  1:00   ` Stephen Boyd
2020-03-23 10:56     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-03-25  2:20       ` Stephen Boyd
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 28/89] ARM: dts: bcm2711: Add HDMI DVP Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 29/89] dt-bindings: display: Convert VC4 bindings to schemas Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24 18:41   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-25 11:54     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 14:02       ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 30/89] dt-bindings: display: vc4: dpi: Add missing clock-names property Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:17   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 31/89] dt-bindings: display: vc4: dsi: Add missing clock properties Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:18   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 32/89] dt-bindings: display: vc4: hdmi: Add missing clock-names property Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:18   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 33/89] dt-bindings: display: vc4: Document BCM2711 VC5 Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:18   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 34/89] drm/vc4: drv: Add include guards Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 35/89] drm/vc4: drv: Support BCM2711 Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 36/89] drm/vc4: drv: Add support for the BCM2711 HVS5 Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 37/89] drm/vc4: plane: Improve LBM usage Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 38/89] drm/vc4: plane: Move planes creation to its own function Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 39/89] drm/vc4: plane: Move additional planes creation to driver Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 40/89] drm/vc4: plane: Register all the planes at once Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 41/89] drm/vc4: plane: Create overlays for any CRTC Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 42/89] drm/vc4: plane: Create more planes Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 43/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Rename SoC data structures Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 44/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Move crtc state to common header Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 45/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Deal with different number of pixel per clock Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 46/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Use a shared interrupt Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 47/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Turn static const variable into a define Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 48/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Move the cob allocation outside of bind Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 49/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Rename HVS channel to output Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 50/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Use local chan variable Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 51/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Enable and disable the PV in atomic_enable / disable Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 52/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Assign output to channel automatically Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 53/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Add FIFO depth to vc4_crtc_data Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 54/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Add function to compute FIFO level bits Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 55/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Rename HDMI encoder type to HDMI0 Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 56/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Add HDMI1 encoder type Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 57/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Remove redundant call to drm_crtc_enable_color_mgmt Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 58/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Disable color management for HVS5 Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 59/89] dt-bindings: display: vc4: pv: Add BCM2711 pixel valves Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:19   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 60/89] drm/vc4: crtc: Add BCM2711 pixelvalves Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 61/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Use debugfs private field Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 62/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Move structure to header Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 63/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: rework connectors and encoders Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 64/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Remove DDC argument to connector_init Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 65/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Rename hdmi to vc4_hdmi Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 66/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Move accessors " Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 67/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Use local vc4_hdmi directly Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 68/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add container_of macros for encoders and connectors Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 69/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Pass vc4_hdmi to CEC code Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 70/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Remove vc4_dev hdmi pointer Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 71/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Remove vc4_hdmi_connector Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 72/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Introduce resource init and variant Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 73/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Implement a register layout abstraction Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 74/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add reset callback Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 75/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add PHY init and disable function Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 76/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add PHY RNG enable / " Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 77/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add a CSC setup callback Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 78/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add a set_timings callback Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 79/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add HDMI ID Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 80/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Deal with multiple debugfs files Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 81/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add an audio support flag Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 82/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Move CEC init to its own function Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 83/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Add CEC support flag Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 84/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Remove unused CEC_CLOCK_DIV define Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 85/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Rename drm_encoder pointer in mode_valid Maxime Ripard
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 86/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Adjust HSM clock rate depending on pixel rate Maxime Ripard
2020-03-16 12:54   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 87/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Support the BCM2711 HDMI controllers Maxime Ripard
2020-03-17 18:25   ` Daniel Rodriguez
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 88/89] dt-bindings: display: vc4: hdmi: Add BCM2711 HDMI controllers bindings Maxime Ripard
2020-02-25 18:24   ` Rob Herring
2020-02-24  9:07 ` [PATCH 89/89] ARM: dts: bcm2711: Enable the display pipeline Maxime Ripard
2020-03-05 10:00 ` [PATCH 70/89] drm/vc4: hdmi: Remove vc4_dev hdmi pointer Jian-Hong Pan

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