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From: Al Cooper <al.cooper@broadcom.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Al Cooper <alcooperx@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alban Bedel <albeu@free.fr>,
	Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Avi Fishman <avifishman70@gmail.com>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Chunfeng Yun <chunfeng.yun@mediatek.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@embeddedor.com>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
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	Jianguo Sun <sunjianguo1@huawei.com>,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@intel.com>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Rishabh Bhatnagar <rishabhb@codeaurora.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/6] usb: ohci-platform: Add support for Broadcom STB SoC's
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 10:58:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4f2a868-c265-58c8-7b7b-91de91f2cf0b@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1811071019090.1542-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On 11/7/18 10:23 AM, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> 
>> On 11/6/18 1:40 PM, Al Cooper wrote:
>>> On 11/6/18 11:08 AM, Alan Stern wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018, Al Cooper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Add support for Broadcom STB SoC's to the ohci platform driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Al Cooper <alcooperx@gmail.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>>> @@ -177,6 +189,8 @@ static int ohci_platform_probe(struct
>>>>> platform_device *dev)
>>>>>            ohci->flags |= OHCI_QUIRK_FRAME_NO;
>>>>>        if (pdata->num_ports)
>>>>>            ohci->num_ports = pdata->num_ports;
>>>>> +    if (pdata->suspend_without_phy_exit)
>>>>> +        hcd->suspend_without_phy_exit = 1;
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I missed this in the earlier discussions...  Is there any
>>>> possibility of adding a DT binding that could express this requirement,
>>>> instead of putting it in the platform data?
>>>>
>>>> Alan Stern
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> That was my original approach but internal review suggested that I use
>>> pdata instead. Below is my original patch for:
>>
>> And the reason for that suggestion was really because it was percevied
>> as encoding a driver behavior as a Device Tree property as opposed to
>> describing something that was inherently and strictly a hardware
>> behavior (therefore suitable for Device Tree).
> 
> Right.  The best way to approach this problem is to identify and
> characterize the hardware behavior which makes this override necessary.
> Then _that_ can be added to DT, since it will be a property of the
> hardware rather than of the driver.
> 
>>> Add the ability to skip calling the PHY's exit routine on suspend
>>> and the PHY's init routine on resume. This is to handle a USB PHY
>>> that should have it's power_off function called on suspend but cannot
>>> have it's exit function called because on exit it will disable the
>>> PHY to the point where register accesses to the Host Controllers
>>> using the PHY will be disabled and the host drivers will crash.
> 
> What's special about this PHY?  Why does the exit function mess the PHY
> up?  Or to put it another way, why doesn't the exit function mess up
> other PHYs in the same way?
> 
> For that matter, can we change the code so that suspend doesn't call
> the exit function for _any_ PHY?  Will just calling the power_off
> function be good enough?  If not, then why not?
> 
> Alan Stern
> 

In our USB hardware the USB PHY supplies a clock for the EHCI/OHCI and 
XHCI host controllers and if the PHY is totally shut down the EHCI, OHCI 
and XHCI registers will cause an exception if accessed and cause the 
EHCI, OHCI and XHCI drivers to crash. There is always talk of fixing 
this in the hardware by adding an aux clock that will takeover when the 
PHY clock is shut down, but this hasn't happened yet. It seems like 
"exit on suspend" still makes sense on systems that don't have this 
problem (additional power savings?) so removing the exit on suspend for 
all systems is not a good idea.

Al

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-07 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-05 21:31 [PATCH V3 0/6] Add XHCI, EHCI and OHCI support for Broadcom STB SoS's Al Cooper
2018-11-05 21:31 ` [PATCH V3 1/6] dt-bindings: Add Broadcom STB OHCI, EHCI and XHCI binding document Al Cooper
2018-11-05 21:31 ` [PATCH V3 2/6] usb: core: Add ability to skip phy exit on suspend and init on resume Al Cooper
2018-11-05 21:31 ` [PATCH V3 3/6] usb: xhci: xhci-plat: Add support for Broadcom STB SoC's Al Cooper
2018-11-05 21:31 ` [PATCH V3 4/6] usb: ohci-platform: " Al Cooper
2018-11-06 16:08   ` Alan Stern
2018-11-06 21:40     ` Al Cooper
2018-11-06 23:44       ` Florian Fainelli
2018-11-07 15:23         ` Alan Stern
2018-11-07 15:58           ` Al Cooper [this message]
2018-11-07 16:27             ` Alan Stern
2018-11-07 17:29               ` Florian Fainelli
2018-11-07 17:40                 ` Al Cooper
2018-11-07 18:11                   ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                     ` <20181112174532.GA14682@bogus>
2018-11-13 21:54                       ` Alan Cooper
2018-11-05 21:31 ` [PATCH V3 5/6] usb: ehci: Add new EHCI driver " Al Cooper
2018-11-05 21:31 ` [PATCH V3 6/6] usb: host: Add ability to build new Broadcom STB USB drivers Al Cooper
2018-11-06 11:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-06 15:55     ` Alan Cooper
2018-11-06 18:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-06 19:33         ` Alan Cooper

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