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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Forked android kernel development from linux kernel mainline
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:34:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvoc9qh4yp.fsf-monnier+gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: AANLkTik=UWwRLOaHMfVifYiQPpSwoYuA6J1EoL5BOgJY@mail.gmail.com

> Just a small comment to say that Android is not the only one (but
> certainly the most visible, and thus easiest to bash on) not making
> effort to get their stuff in mainline.

It's not only that.  But Android in general is also a very poor citizen
w.r.t Free Software since it tends to be distributed in closed form for
devices that only work if you add proprietary code, and it supports
DRM-style nightmares.
It's not as dangerous to Free Software as the iphone, tho.

> OpenWRT people are also maintaining their fork of the kernel, without
> even using git, and not contributing much to mainline (I'm certainly
> mistaken on that last comment).

I can assure you that the contributions are as frequent, important, and
significant as the OpenWRT can muster: they have very limited resources,
which is the main limitation.  But also because of those limited
resources, it's in their best interest to get things upstream.

Android is different since the company behind it made a conscious
decision to fork even though they have/had the resources necessary to
push their changes upstream.


        Stefan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-15 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-30 18:18 Forked android kernel development from linux kernel mainline Elvis Dowson
2010-11-02 21:25 ` Janakiram Sistla
2010-11-06 18:12   ` Greg KH
2010-11-06 19:22     ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-06 19:40       ` Anca Emanuel
2010-11-06 23:40         ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-06 23:52           ` david
2010-11-07  0:03             ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-07  0:13               ` Alan Cox
2010-11-07  0:20                 ` Janakiram Sistla
2010-11-09 16:30                 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-07  0:20               ` david
2010-11-10 13:54               ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-10 20:38                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-01-11 14:33                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-06 23:42         ` Janakiram Sistla
2010-11-06 23:09       ` Greg KH
2010-11-07  0:24         ` Randy Dunlap
2010-11-07  8:38     ` Elvis Dowson
2010-11-07 11:44       ` Anca Emanuel
2010-11-07 15:57         ` Greg KH
2010-11-07 20:06           ` Elvis Dowson
2010-11-07 21:31             ` Greg KH
2010-11-07 21:46               ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-07 21:47                 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-09 18:10             ` Elvis Dowson
2010-11-09 18:24               ` Greg KH
2010-11-09 18:37                 ` Elvis Dowson
2010-11-09 18:42                   ` david
2010-11-09 18:52                     ` Elvis Dowson
2010-11-09 20:55                       ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-09 22:32                         ` Alan Cox
2010-11-10  0:35                           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-10  9:53                             ` Florian Mickler
2010-11-10 20:55                             ` Alan Cox
2010-11-07 21:44           ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-07 21:59             ` Greg KH
2010-11-07 23:09               ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-08  1:42                 ` Greg KH
2010-11-08  2:22                   ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-09 13:27                 ` Florian Fainelli
2010-11-11  0:33               ` Roland Dreier
2010-11-11  0:40                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-12  3:15                   ` Roland Dreier
2010-11-12 10:26                     ` Florian Fainelli
2010-11-11  0:47                 ` Greg KH
2010-11-11 11:21                   ` Florian Fainelli
2010-11-12  3:17                     ` Roland Dreier
2010-11-11 11:18                 ` Florian Fainelli
2010-11-09 13:27             ` Florian Fainelli
2010-11-09 13:51               ` [OpenWrt-Devel] " Wolfgang Spraul
2010-11-13  3:06             ` Arnaud Lacombe
2010-11-15 17:34             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-11-16  6:23               ` Brian Swetland
2010-11-16  7:02                 ` Anca Emanuel

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