From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Ricardo Cañuelo" <ricardo.canuelo@collabora.com>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Shreeya Patel <shreeya.patel@collabora.com>,
Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
clang-built-linux <llvm@lists.linux.dev>,
Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
regressions@lists.linux.dev,
"gustavo.padovan@collabora.com" <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>,
Guillaume Charles Tucker <guillaume.tucker@collabora.com>,
denys.f@collabora.com, kernelci@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] Makefile.compiler: replace cc-ifversion with compiler-specific macros
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 17:52:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2023052247-bobtail-factsheet-d104@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87353ok78h.fsf@rcn-XPS-13-9305.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:09:34PM +0200, Ricardo Cañuelo wrote:
> On vie, may 19 2023 at 08:57:24, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
> > It could be; if the link order was changed, it's possible that this
> > target may be hitting something along the lines of:
> > https://isocpp.org/wiki/faq/ctors#static-init-order i.e. the "static
> > initialization order fiasco"
> >
> > I'm struggling to think of how this appears in C codebases, but I
> > swear years ago I had a discussion with GKH (maybe?) about this. I
> > think I was playing with converting Kbuild to use Ninja rather than
> > Make; the resulting kernel image wouldn't boot because I had modified
> > the order the object files were linked in. If you were to randomly
> > shuffle the object files in the kernel, I recall some hazard that may
> > prevent boot.
>
> I thought that was specifically a C++ problem? But then again, the
> kernel docs explicitly say that the ordering of obj-y goals in kbuild is
> significant in some instances [1]:
Yes, it matters, you can not change it. If you do, systems will break.
It is the only way we have of properly ordering our init calls within
the same "level".
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-22 16:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-07 4:59 [PATCH v3 0/5] fix debug info for asm and DEBUG_INFO_SPLIT Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] x86/boot/compressed: prefer cc-option for CFLAGS additions Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-09 21:05 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] Makefile.compiler: Use KBUILD_AFLAGS for as-option Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-09 21:06 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] Makefile.compiler: replace cc-ifversion with compiler-specific macros Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-09 21:59 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] Makefile.debug: re-enable debug info for .S files Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] Makefile.debug: set -g unconditional on CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_SPLIT Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-09 20:56 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-09 21:02 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-19 17:08 ` [PATCH v4] Makefile.compiler: replace cc-ifversion with compiler-specific macros Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-23 19:44 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-24 14:28 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-25 1:22 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-26 21:41 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-04-27 11:53 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-04-28 7:41 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-05-02 9:48 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-05-02 11:58 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-28 17:27 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-03 21:02 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-05-03 21:15 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-03 22:33 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-05-15 23:01 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-17 8:34 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-05-17 15:39 ` Ricardo Cañuelo
2023-05-17 16:27 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-18 14:23 ` Ricardo Cañuelo
2023-05-18 21:12 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-19 8:35 ` Ricardo Cañuelo
2023-05-19 15:57 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-22 10:09 ` Ricardo Cañuelo
2023-05-22 16:52 ` Greg KH [this message]
2023-05-22 19:52 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-22 20:01 ` Greg KH
2023-05-22 20:16 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-05-23 10:27 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-05-23 21:27 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-06-12 10:10 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-06-20 4:19 ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-07-10 12:09 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-07-11 11:16 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-08-29 11:28 ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-09-11 10:05 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-09-15 9:33 ` Shreeya Patel
2023-09-30 10:24 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-19 17:30 ` [PATCH v4] Makefile.debug: set -g unconditional on CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_SPLIT Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-24 1:34 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-19 17:45 ` [PATCH v4] Makefile.debug: re-enable debug info for .S files Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-24 2:11 ` Masahiro Yamada
2022-09-24 2:20 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-09-24 6:43 ` Masahiro Yamada
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