From: Chris Talbot <chris@talbothome.com>
To: Wookey <wookey@wookware.org>,
Marius Gripsgard <marius@ubports.com>,
985893@bugs.debian.org
Cc: ofono@ofono.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
debian-on-mobile-maintainers@alioth-lists.debian.net,
librem-5-dev@lists.community.puri.sm, 982250@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#985893: Forking on MMSD
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 20:12:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0acefd2501e228328147911c7ba878b2fcd0cf3b.camel@talbothome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210414220948.GL11215@mail.wookware.org>
Hello!
On Wed, 2021-04-14 at 23:09 +0100, Wookey wrote:
> On 2021-04-14 18:39 +0000, Marius Gripsgard wrote:
>
> > I would really like to avoid a fork, it's not worth doing dual
> > work. Did you ping ofono devs at irc? Also have you sent upstream
> > patches? If a fork is the way you want to go, you will need to
> > rename it as the existing packages need to follow upstream, we
> > can't
> > just rip an existing packages away from upstream.
>
> Debian can package mmsd with whatever set of patches it sees fit. If
> the end result is ChrisT's version, with Modem Manager support, then
> I
> think that's reasonable. mmsd is not currently packaged in debian so
> I
> don't think a rename is required. Ultimately it's up to maintainers
> to
> choose which upstream is most appropriate. There used to be only one,
> but increasingly one gets a choice of varying degrees of active
> maintenance. (This can be a huge pain making life quite awkward for
> maintainers, and I find Debian is the only org trying to unify a
> diverse set of versions where a load of people have scratched their
> own itch and then just left it like that.)
>
At this point, fork of mmsd should still work with ofono. I have not
disturbed anything ofono related, and have made several improvements to
the core that should benefit ofono too.
I would in addition welcome someone from ofono to work with me! I would
rather mmsd work with both stacks (as we all benefit from that). The
Mobian and PostmarketOS developers have welcomed me, and I am happy to
work with you all too. I joined the UBports matrix channel and
introduced myself (in addition to asking how you all contact the ofono
folks), you are free to reach out to me.
> Ultimately we want the best functionality for our users, and if the
> old upstream has been inactive for years then using this new,
> maintained version of mmsd may well be the best course. Efforts
> should
> continue to either give Chris access to the original repo or
> officially declare it 'under new management' so that there is a
> canonical place for the codebase, but in the meantime it's OK for
> debian to have a big patch.
>
I admittedly do not know who to contact for repo access? I asked on the
Kernelnewbies IRC/Mailing list (as I am a bit of a kernel newbie), but
I did not hear anything back.
I am not trying to start a fork because I want to, and if you look at
Ofono's ML history, you can see that I have tried a lot to work with
upstream. I am starting a fork because I feel this is the only way I
can really move forward in getting MMS working. Without MMS,
unfortunately the Pinephone I have is little more than a toy with me,
and I put a lot of work into getting MMS working on the Modem Manager
stack.
> Versioning could be tricky in some situations, but SFACT the ofono
> mmsd is just 0.0 so the debian version can be 0.0.something and
> remain
> compatible with a shift back to that repo at some point.
>
> Wookey
Thank you!
Respectfully,
Chris Talbot
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-15 0:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-10 14:13 [PATCH 0/9] Updates for mmsd Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:17 ` [PATCH 1/9] Fix mmsd to work with T-mobile Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:20 ` [PATCH 2/9] Ensure Compatibility with Telus Canada Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:20 ` [PATCH 3/9] Ensure Compatibility with AT&T Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] Fix issue if there is an empty string in encoded text Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:22 ` [PATCH 5/9] Allow for a user configurable maximum attachment size Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:22 ` [PATCH 6/9] Update README Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Fix Draft and Sent Bugs Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Allow Maintainer mode to compile without -WError Chris Talbot
2021-04-10 14:24 ` [PATCH 9/9] Enable support for Modem Manager Chris Talbot
2021-04-14 18:21 ` Forking on MMSD Chris Talbot
2021-04-14 18:30 ` [Debian-on-mobile-maintainers] " Guido Günther
2021-04-14 18:46 ` Chris Talbot
2021-04-15 9:10 ` Guido Günther
2021-04-14 18:39 ` Marius Gripsgard
2021-04-14 22:09 ` Bug#985893: " Wookey
2021-04-15 0:12 ` Chris Talbot [this message]
2021-04-14 19:29 ` Pavel Machek
2021-04-14 21:11 ` Bug#985893: " Paul Wise
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