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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>
Cc: cphealy@gmail.com, davem@davemloft.net, f.fainelli@gmail.com,
	hkallweit1@gmail.com, mkubecek@suse.cz, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 4/9] net: ethtool: Add attributes for cable test reports
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:57:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200429185727.GP30459@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200429161605.23104-1-michael@walle.cc>

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Michael Walle wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > > > > +enum {
> > > > > +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_0,
> > > > > +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_1,
> > > > > +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_2,
> > > > > +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_3,
> > > > > +};
> > > > 
> > > > Do we really need this enum, couldn't we simply use a number (possibly
> > > > with a sanity check of maximum value)?
> > > 
> > > They are not strictly required. But it helps with consistence. Are the
> > > pairs numbered 0, 1, 2, 3, or 1, 2, 3, 4?
> > 
> > OK, I'm not strictly opposed to it, it just felt a bit weird.
> 
> Speaking of the pairs. What is PAIR_0 and what is PAIR_3? Maybe
> it is specified somewhere in a standard, but IMHO an example for
> a normal TP cable would help to prevent wild growth amongst the
> PHY drivers and would help to provide consistent reporting towards
> the user space.

Hi Michael

Good question

Section 25.4.3 gives the pin out for 100BaseT. There is no pair
numbering, just transmit+, transmit- and receive+, receive- signals.

1000BaseT calls the signals BI_DA+, BI_DA-, BI_DB+, BI_DB-, BI_DC+,
BI_DC-, BI_DDA+, BI_DD-. Comparing the pinout 100BaseT would use
BI_DA+, BI_DA-, BI_DB+, BI_DB. But 1000BaseT does not really have
transmit and receive pairs due to Auto MDI-X.

BroadReach calls the one pair it has BI_DA+/BI_DA-.

Maybe it would be better to have:

enum {
	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_A,
	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_B,
	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_C,
	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_D,
};

	Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-25 18:06 [PATCH net-next v1 0/9] Ethernet Cable test support Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 1/9] net: phy: Add cable test support to state machine Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 19:46   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-26 20:31     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 21:22   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 2/9] net: phy: Add support for polling cable test Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 19:49   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-25 20:10     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 21:19       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-26 22:07         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 3/9] net: ethtool: netlink: Add support for triggering a " Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 19:36   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-26 20:38     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 20:50       ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 4/9] net: ethtool: Add attributes for cable test reports Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 20:00   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-04-26 20:25   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-26 21:12     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-27  7:13       ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-29 16:16   ` Michael Walle
2020-04-29 18:57     ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2020-04-29 18:58       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-29 19:32         ` Michael Walle
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 5/9] net: ethtool: Make helpers public Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 6/9] net: ethtool: Add infrastructure for reporting cable test results Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 7/9] net: ethtool: Add helpers for reporting " Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 8/9] net: phy: marvell: Add cable test support Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 9/9] net: phy: Put interface into oper testing during cable test Andrew Lunn
2020-04-29 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next v1 0/9] Ethernet Cable test support Michael Walle
2020-04-29 16:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 17:48     ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 18:23       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 19:44         ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 20:51           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 18:34       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 19:31         ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 19:38           ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 19:52             ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 19:41           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 20:01             ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 20:56               ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 20:04             ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 20:13               ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 20:19                 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 21:16                   ` Michael Walle

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