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From: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>
To: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>,
	Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: "Eric Biggers" <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"Ondrej Mosnacek" <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] [RESEND] wireguard: disable in FIPS mode
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2021 12:26:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ab19b062cf61cf6f54e7f0145c8d6fd77aee5ed.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210409080804.GO2900@Leo-laptop-t470s>

On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 16:08 +0800, Hangbin Liu wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 09:08:20AM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > > And how do you handle all the other places in the kernel that use
> > > > > > > ChaCha20 and
> > > > > > > SipHash?  For example, drivers/char/random.c?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Good question, I will check it and reply to you later.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just read the code. The drivers/char/random.c do has some fips
> > > > > specific
> > > > > parts(seems not related to crypto). After commit e192be9d9a30 ("random:
> > > > > replace
> > > > > non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG") we moved part of chacha
> > > > > code to
> > > > > lib/chacha20.c and make that code out of control.
> > > > > 
> > > > So you are saying that you removed drivers/char/random.c and
> > > > lib/chacha20.c from
> > > > your FIPS module boundary?  Why not do the same for WireGuard?
> > > 
> > > No, I mean this looks like a bug (using not allowed crypto in FIPS mode) and
> > > we should fix it.
> > 
> > The entirety of random.c is not compliant to FIPS rules. ChaCha20 is the least
> > of the problems. SP800-90B is the challenge. This is one of the motivation of
> > the design and architecture of the LRNG allowing different types of crypto and
> > have a different approach to post-process the data.
> > 
> > https://github.com/smuellerDD/lrng
> 
> Thanks Stephan for this info. After offline discussion with Herbert, here is
> what he said:
> 
> """
> This is not a problem in RHEL8 because the Crypto API RNG replaces /dev/random
> in FIPS mode.
> """
> 
> I'm not familiar with this code, not sure how upstream handle this.

It is an open problem upstream.

Simo.

-- 
Simo Sorce
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat, Inc





  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-09 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-07 11:39 [PATCH net-next] [RESEND] wireguard: disable in FIPS mode Hangbin Liu
2021-04-07 21:12 ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-08  1:06   ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-08 11:58     ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-08 15:11       ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-09  2:11         ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-09  7:08           ` Stephan Mueller
2021-04-09  8:08             ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-09 16:26               ` Simo Sorce [this message]
2021-04-09 18:29               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-04-12  2:11                 ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-07 21:15 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-04-08  6:52   ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-08  7:36     ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2021-04-08 13:55   ` Simo Sorce
2021-04-08 21:55     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-04-08 22:16       ` Simo Sorce
2021-04-09  2:41       ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-09  2:44         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-04-09  2:49           ` Hangbin Liu
2021-04-09  3:03             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-04-09  6:02               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-04-09 12:47                 ` Simo Sorce
2021-04-09 18:36                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-04-09 18:56                     ` Simo Sorce
2021-04-12 12:46                       ` Simo Sorce

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