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From: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
To: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xieyongji@bytedance.com" <xieyongji@bytedance.com>,
	"gautam.dawar@amd.com" <gautam.dawar@amd.com>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 3/6] vDPA: allow userspace to query features of a vDPA device
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 19:38:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35d6c4e1-6d04-7e77-9060-bf7256a5b60d@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1bb599c-63be-a85e-5cff-6eed28abd347@oracle.com>



On 7/27/2022 4:15 PM, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
>
>
> On 7/5/2022 4:56 AM, Parav Pandit via Virtualization wrote:
>>> From: Zhu, Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 3:59 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/4/2022 8:53 PM, Parav Pandit wrote:
>>>>> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2022 12:47 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 在 2022/7/2 06:02, Parav Pandit 写道:
>>>>>>> From: Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 9:28 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This commit adds a new vDPA netlink attribution
>>>>>>> VDPA_ATTR_VDPA_DEV_SUPPORTED_FEATURES. Userspace can query
>>>>> features
>>>>>>> of vDPA devices through this new attr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixes: a64917bc2e9b vdpa: (Provide interface to read driver
>>>>>>> feature)
>>>>>> Missing the "" in the line.
>>>>>> I reviewed the patches again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, this is not the fix.
>>>>>> A fix cannot add a new UAPI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Code is already considering negotiated driver features to return the
>>>>>> device
>>>>> config space.
>>>>>> Hence it is fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch intents to provide device features to user space.
>>>>>> First what vdpa device are capable of, are already returned by
>>>>>> features
>>>>> attribute on the management device.
>>>>>> This is done in commit [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only reason to have it is, when one management device indicates
>>>>>> that
>>>>> feature is supported, but device may end up not supporting this
>>>>> feature if such feature is shared with other devices on same 
>>>>> physical device.
>>>>>> For example all VFs may not be symmetric after large number of them
>>>>>> are
>>>>> in use. In such case features bit of management device can differ
>>>>> (more
>>>>> features) than the vdpa device of this VF.
>>>>>> Hence, showing on the device is useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As mentioned before in V2, commit [1] has wrongly named the
>>>>>> attribute to
>>>>> VDPA_ATTR_DEV_SUPPORTED_FEATURES.
>>>>>> It should have been,
>>>>> VDPA_ATTR_DEV_MGMTDEV_SUPPORTED_FEATURES.
>>>>>> Because it is in UAPI, and since we don't want to break compilation
>>>>>> of iproute2, It cannot be renamed anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that, we do not want to start trend of naming device
>>>>>> attributes with
>>>>> additional _VDPA_ to it as done in this patch.
>>>>>> Error in commit [1] was exception.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hence, please reuse VDPA_ATTR_DEV_SUPPORTED_FEATURES to return
>>>>> for device features too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This will probably break or confuse the existing userspace?
>>>>>
>>>> It shouldn't break, because its new attribute on the device.
>>>> All attributes are per command, so old one will not be confused 
>>>> either.
>>> A netlink attr should has its own and unique purpose, that's why we 
>>> don't need
>>> locks for the attrs, only one consumer and only one producer.
>>> I am afraid re-using (for both management device and the vDPA 
>>> device) the attr
>>> VDPA_ATTR_DEV_SUPPORTED_FEATURES would lead to new race condition.
>>> E.g., There are possibilities of querying FEATURES of a management 
>>> device and
>>> a vDPA device simultaneously, or can there be a syncing issue in a 
>>> tick?
>> Both can be queried simultaneously. Each will return their own 
>> feature bits using same attribute.
>> It wont lead to the race.
> Agreed. Multiple userspace callers would do recv() calls on different 
> netlink sockets. Looks to me shouldn't involve any race.
oh yes, thanks for pointing this out, they are on different sockets 
belonging to different userspace programs.
>>
>>> IMHO, I don't see any advantages of re-using this attr.
>> We don’t want to continue this mess of VDPA_DEV prefix for new 
>> attributes due to previous wrong naming.
> Well, you can say it's a mess but since the attr name can be reused 
> for different command,  I didn't care that much while reviewing this. 
> Actually, it was initially named this way to show the device features 
> in "vdpa dev config ..." output, but later on it had been moved to 
> mgmtdev to show parent's capability.
yes there is a buggy commit, but we can not change it now, because we 
are not expected to break current uapi, so I think it is better to add a 
new attr, no benefits to reuse another attr.
>
> -Siwei
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>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-27 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-01 13:28 [PATCH V3 0/6] ifcvf/vDPA: support query device config space through netlink Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 1/6] vDPA/ifcvf: get_config_size should return a value no greater than dev implementation Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-04  4:39   ` Jason Wang
2022-07-08  6:44     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  5:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:52         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  5:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:48     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 2/6] vDPA/ifcvf: support userspace to query features and MQ of a management device Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-04  4:43   ` Jason Wang
2022-07-08  6:54     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 3/6] vDPA: allow userspace to query features of a vDPA device Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:02   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-04  4:46     ` Jason Wang
2022-07-04 12:53       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-05  7:59         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-05 11:56           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-05 16:56             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-05 17:01               ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-06  2:25                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-06  2:28                   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-23 11:27                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-24 15:23                     ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  8:15             ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-27 11:38               ` Zhu, Lingshan [this message]
2022-07-08  6:16     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-08 16:13       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-11  2:18         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 4/6] vDPA: !FEATURES_OK should not block querying device config space Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:12   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-08  6:22     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  5:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:46       ` Zhu, Lingshan
     [not found]     ` <00889067-50ac-d2cd-675f-748f171e5c83@oracle.com>
     [not found]       ` <63242254-ba84-6810-dad8-34f900b97f2f@intel.com>
     [not found]         ` <8002554a-a77c-7b25-8f99-8d68248a741d@oracle.com>
2022-07-28  2:06           ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  7:08             ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-28  7:36               ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  7:44                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
     [not found]                 ` <2dfff5f3-3100-4a63-6da3-3e3d21ffb364@oracle.com>
2022-07-28 11:28                   ` spec clarification (was Re: [PATCH V3 4/6] vDPA: !FEATURES_OK should not block querying device config space) Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-28 11:35               ` [PATCH V3 4/6] vDPA: !FEATURES_OK should not block querying device config space Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-28 22:12                 ` Si-Wei Liu
     [not found]           ` <00e2e07e-1a2e-7af8-a060-cc9034e0d33f@intel.com>
     [not found]             ` <b58dba25-3258-d600-ea06-879094639852@oracle.com>
     [not found]               ` <c143e2da-208e-b046-9b8f-1780f75ed3e6@intel.com>
2022-07-29 20:55                 ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-01  4:44                   ` Jason Wang
2022-08-01 22:53                     ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-01 22:58                       ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-02  6:33                         ` Jason Wang
2022-08-03  1:26                           ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-03  2:30                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-08-03 23:09                               ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-04  1:41                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-08-04  1:41                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 5/6] vDPA: answer num of queue pairs = 1 to userspace when VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ == 0 Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:07   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-08  6:21     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-08 16:23       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-11  2:29         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-12 16:48           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-13  3:03             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  3:06               ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-13  3:45                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-26 15:56                   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-26 19:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-26 20:49                       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  2:14                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  2:17                       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  2:53                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  3:47                           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  4:24                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  6:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27  6:25                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  6:56                                 ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27  9:05                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27  6:54                               ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27  9:02                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27  9:50                                   ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27 15:45                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-28  1:21                                       ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  3:46                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28  5:53                                           ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  6:02                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28  6:41                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-01  4:50                                               ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27  7:50                               ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-27  9:01                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27 10:09                                   ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-27 11:54                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28  1:41                                       ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-28  2:44                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28 21:54                                           ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-29  2:07                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27 15:48                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  5:26     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:47       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-26 15:54       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-26 19:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-26 20:53           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  1:56             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  2:11             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 6/6] vDPA: fix 'cast to restricted le16' warnings in vdpa.c Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:18   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-08  6:25     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-08 16:08       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-29  8:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29  9:07     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29  9:17       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29  9:20         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29  9:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29  9:35             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29  9:39               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29 10:01                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29 10:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29 10:18                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-08-01  4:33                 ` Jason Wang
2022-08-01  6:25                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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