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From: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xieyongji@bytedance.com" <xieyongji@bytedance.com>,
	"gautam.dawar@amd.com" <gautam.dawar@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 5/6] vDPA: answer num of queue pairs = 1 to userspace when VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ == 0
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 12:24:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5518a485-1ced-ec8f-9817-4303b0117f80@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54815AD7D0674FEB1D63EB61DC979@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>



On 7/27/2022 11:47 AM, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> From: Zhu, Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 10:53 PM
>>
>> On 7/27/2022 10:17 AM, Parav Pandit wrote:
>>>> From: Zhu, Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 10:15 PM
>>>>
>>>> On 7/26/2022 11:56 PM, Parav Pandit wrote:
>>>>>> From: Zhu, Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:46 PM
>>>>>>> When the user space which invokes netlink commands, detects that
>>>> _MQ
>>>>>> is not supported, hence it takes max_queue_pair = 1 by itself.
>>>>>> I think the kernel module have all necessary information and it is
>>>>>> the only one which have precise information of a device, so it
>>>>>> should answer precisely than let the user space guess. The kernel
>>>>>> module should be reliable than stay silent, leave the question to
>>>>>> the user space
>>>> tool.
>>>>> Kernel is reliable. It doesn’t expose a config space field if the
>>>>> field doesn’t
>>>> exist regardless of field should have default or no default.
>>>> so when you know it is one queue pair, you should answer one, not try
>>>> to guess.
>>>>> User space should not guess either. User space gets to see if _MQ
>>>> present/not present. If _MQ present than get reliable data from kernel.
>>>>> If _MQ not present, it means this device has one VQ pair.
>>>> it is still a guess, right? And all user space tools implemented this
>>>> feature need to guess
>>> No. it is not a guess.
>>> It is explicitly checking the _MQ feature and deriving the value.
>>> The code you proposed will be present in the user space.
>>> It will be uniform for _MQ and 10 other features that are present now and
>> in the future.
>> MQ and other features like RSS are different. If there is no _RSS_XX, there
>> are no attributes like max_rss_key_size, and there is not a default value.
>> But for MQ, we know it has to be 1 wihtout _MQ.
> "we" = user space.
> To keep the consistency among all the config space fields.
The user space tools asks for the number of vq pairs, not whether the 
device has _MQ.
_MQ and _RSS are not the same kind of concepts, as we have discussed above.
You have pointed out the logic: If there is _MQ, kernel answers 
max_vq_paris, if no _MQ, num_vq_paris=1.

So as MST pointed out, implementing this in kernel space can make our 
life easier, once for all.
>
>>> For feature X, kernel reports default and for feature Y, kernel skip
>> reporting it, because there is no default. <- This is what we are trying to
>> avoid here.
>> Kernel reports one queue pair because there is actually one.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-27  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-01 13:28 [PATCH V3 0/6] ifcvf/vDPA: support query device config space through netlink Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 1/6] vDPA/ifcvf: get_config_size should return a value no greater than dev implementation Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-04  4:39   ` Jason Wang
2022-07-08  6:44     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  5:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:52         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  5:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:48     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 2/6] vDPA/ifcvf: support userspace to query features and MQ of a management device Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-04  4:43   ` Jason Wang
2022-07-08  6:54     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 3/6] vDPA: allow userspace to query features of a vDPA device Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:02   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-04  4:46     ` Jason Wang
2022-07-04 12:53       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-05  7:59         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-05 11:56           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-05 16:56             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-05 17:01               ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-06  2:25                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-06  2:28                   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-23 11:27                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-24 15:23                     ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  8:15             ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-27 11:38               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-08  6:16     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-08 16:13       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-11  2:18         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 4/6] vDPA: !FEATURES_OK should not block querying device config space Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:12   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-08  6:22     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  5:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:46       ` Zhu, Lingshan
     [not found]     ` <00889067-50ac-d2cd-675f-748f171e5c83@oracle.com>
     [not found]       ` <63242254-ba84-6810-dad8-34f900b97f2f@intel.com>
     [not found]         ` <8002554a-a77c-7b25-8f99-8d68248a741d@oracle.com>
2022-07-28  2:06           ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  7:08             ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-28  7:36               ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  7:44                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
     [not found]                 ` <2dfff5f3-3100-4a63-6da3-3e3d21ffb364@oracle.com>
2022-07-28 11:28                   ` spec clarification (was Re: [PATCH V3 4/6] vDPA: !FEATURES_OK should not block querying device config space) Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-28 11:35               ` [PATCH V3 4/6] vDPA: !FEATURES_OK should not block querying device config space Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-28 22:12                 ` Si-Wei Liu
     [not found]           ` <00e2e07e-1a2e-7af8-a060-cc9034e0d33f@intel.com>
     [not found]             ` <b58dba25-3258-d600-ea06-879094639852@oracle.com>
     [not found]               ` <c143e2da-208e-b046-9b8f-1780f75ed3e6@intel.com>
2022-07-29 20:55                 ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-01  4:44                   ` Jason Wang
2022-08-01 22:53                     ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-01 22:58                       ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-02  6:33                         ` Jason Wang
2022-08-03  1:26                           ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-03  2:30                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-08-03 23:09                               ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-08-04  1:41                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-08-04  1:41                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 5/6] vDPA: answer num of queue pairs = 1 to userspace when VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ == 0 Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:07   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-08  6:21     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-08 16:23       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-11  2:29         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-12 16:48           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-13  3:03             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-13  3:06               ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-13  3:45                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-26 15:56                   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-26 19:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-26 20:49                       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  2:14                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  2:17                       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  2:53                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  3:47                           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  4:24                             ` Zhu, Lingshan [this message]
2022-07-27  6:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27  6:25                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  6:56                                 ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27  9:05                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27  6:54                               ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27  9:02                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27  9:50                                   ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27 15:45                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-28  1:21                                       ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  3:46                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28  5:53                                           ` Jason Wang
2022-07-28  6:02                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28  6:41                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-01  4:50                                               ` Jason Wang
2022-07-27  7:50                               ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-27  9:01                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-27 10:09                                   ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-27 11:54                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28  1:41                                       ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-28  2:44                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-28 21:54                                           ` Si-Wei Liu
2022-07-29  2:07                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27 15:48                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  5:26     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-13  7:47       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-26 15:54       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-26 19:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-26 20:53           ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-27  1:56             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-27  2:11             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-01 13:28 ` [PATCH V3 6/6] vDPA: fix 'cast to restricted le16' warnings in vdpa.c Zhu Lingshan
2022-07-01 22:18   ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-08  6:25     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-08 16:08       ` Parav Pandit
2022-07-29  8:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29  9:07     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29  9:17       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29  9:20         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29  9:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29  9:35             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29  9:39               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29 10:01                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-07-29 10:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-07-29 10:18                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2022-08-01  4:33                 ` Jason Wang
2022-08-01  6:25                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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