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From: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Antoine Tenart <atenart@kernel.org>,
	Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@bootlin.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	Maxim Kochetkov <fido_max@inbox.ru>,
	Bjarni Jonasson <bjarni.jonasson@microchip.com>,
	Steen Hegelund <steen.hegelund@microchip.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] net: phylink: explicitly configure in-band autoneg for PHYs that support it
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 20:57:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4b3f06686cb58dcdda582bfdbd0abb85@walle.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210213185620.3lij467kne6cm4gk@skbuf>

Am 2021-02-13 19:56, schrieb Vladimir Oltean:
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 06:09:13PM +0100, Michael Walle wrote:
>> Am 2021-02-13 17:53, schrieb Michael Walle:
>> > Am 2021-02-13 01:36, schrieb Vladimir Oltean:
>> > But the Atheros PHY seems to have a problem with the SGMII link
>> > if there is no autoneg.
>> > No matter what I do, I can't get any traffic though if its not
>> > gigabit on the copper side. Unfortunately, I don't have access
>> > to an oscilloscope right now to see whats going on on the SGMII
>> > link.
>> 
>> Scrap that. It will work if I set the speed/duplex mode in BMCR
>> correctly. (I tried that before, but I shifted one bit. doh).
>> 
>> So that will work, but when will it be done? There is no
>> callback to configure the PCS side of the PHY if a link up is
>> detected.
> 
> That's interesting/odd, on VSC8514 there is no need to force the speed
> of the system side to what was negotiated on media side. I took a quick
> look through the AR8033 datasheet and there isn't any mentioning the
> ability to program the SGMII link according to internal state as 
> opposed
> to register settings, but it's equally possible that I'm simply not
> seeing it.

I couldn't find anything in the AR8031 datasheet either.

> On the other hand, I never meant for the inband autoneg setting to only
> be configurable both ways.

Then why is there a "bool enabled"?

> I expect some PHYs are not able to operate
> using noinband mode, and for those I guess you should simply return
> -EINVAL, allowing the system designer to know that the configuration
> will not work and why.

You mean like this:

static int at803x_config_inband_aneg(struct phy_device *phydev, bool 
enabled)
{
	if (!enabled)
		return -EINVAL;
	/* enable SGMII autoneg */
	return phy_write_paged(...);
}

But then why bother with config_inband_aneg() at all and just enable
it unconditionally in config_init(). [and maybe keep the return 
-EINVAL].
Which then begs the question, does it makes sense on (Q)SGMII links at
all?

> I think you could hook into .config_aneg_done, for the autoneg=true
> case, and into .config_aneg for autoneg=false (I'm talking about 
> autoneg
> on media side here), but honestly I think the PHY is pretty broken for
> requiring external coordination between the clause 28 and the clause 37
> PCS. So unless there is a real need to configure noinband mode, I would
> probably not bother.

Probably not.

-michael

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-13 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-12 17:23 [PATCH net-next 0/2] Let phylink manage in-band AN for the PHY Vladimir Oltean
2021-02-12 17:23 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] net: phylink: explicitly configure in-band autoneg for PHYs that support it Vladimir Oltean
2021-02-12 22:40   ` Michael Walle
2021-02-13  0:18     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-02-13 16:41       ` Michael Walle
2021-02-13 16:59         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-02-13 17:06         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-02-13  0:36     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-02-13 16:53       ` Michael Walle
2021-02-13 17:09         ` Michael Walle
2021-02-13 18:56           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-02-13 19:57             ` Michael Walle [this message]
2021-02-13 20:12               ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-02-13 20:16               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-02-14 10:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-02-14 11:10     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-02-14 13:18       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-02-12 17:23 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: phy: mscc: configure in-band auto-negotiation for VSC8514 Vladimir Oltean

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