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From: Ceriel Jacobs <linux-scsi@crashplan.pro>
To: Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
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	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
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	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
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	systemd Mailin
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC v2 3/6] kthread: warn on kill signal if not OOM
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:07:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <541022F4.4020501@crashplan.pro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG-2HqUiUksdT4UyeDsdc1Q74=2BiX2TuzzGh_hoLiO5_DOvXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tom Gundersen schreef op 10-09-14 om 08:46:
>> >Indeed. What I proposed with a multiplier for the timeout for the
>> >different types of built in commands was deemed complex but saw no
>> >alternatives proposed despite my interest to work on one and
>> >clarifications noted that this was a design regression. Not quite sure
>> >what else I could have done here. I'm interested in learning what the
>> >better approach is for the future as if we want to marry init + kernel
>> >we need a smooth way for us to discuss design without getting worked
>> >up about it, or taking it personal. I really want this to work as I
>> >personally like systemd so far.
> How about this: keep the timeout global, but also introduce a
> (relatively short, say 10 or 15 seconds) timeout after which a warning
> is printed. Even if nothing is actually killed, having workers (be it
> insmod or something else) take longer than a couple of seconds is
> likely a sign that something is seriously off somewhere.

I don't agree with the statement that something is seriously off when it 
takes more then 10 to 15 seconds.

When probing only one hard disk drive, then I do agree that something is 
seriously off after 10 to 15 seconds.

When probing a SAS bus with one hundred hard disk drives in standby 
mode, then I do expect that to take longer then 10 to 15 seconds.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-10 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1409899047-13045-1-git-send-email-mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>
2014-09-05  6:37 ` [RFC v2 2/6] driver-core: add driver async_probe support Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05 11:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-05 17:25     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05 22:10   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-10-20 23:43     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05  6:37 ` [RFC v2 3/6] kthread: warn on kill signal if not OOM Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05  7:19   ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05  7:47     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05  9:14       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-09-05 14:12       ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 16:44         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-05 17:49           ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 18:10             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-05 22:29               ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 22:31                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 22:49                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-05 22:55                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 23:22                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-05 23:32                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 22:45                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-09-05 22:52                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-05 22:57                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05 23:05                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-09-05 23:18                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-05 18:12             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05 18:29               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-05 22:40               ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  1:04                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-09  1:10                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  1:13                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  1:22                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  1:26                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-09  1:29                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  1:38                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-09  1:47                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  2:28                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-09  2:39                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  2:57                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-09  3:03                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09  3:19                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-09  3:25                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 23:03                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-12 20:14                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-22 16:36                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-10  5:13                         ` Tom Gundersen
2014-09-09  5:38                     ` James Bottomley
2014-09-09 19:16                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-09 19:35                         ` James Bottomley
2014-09-09 20:45                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-10  6:46                             ` Tom Gundersen
2014-09-10 10:07                               ` Ceriel Jacobs [this message]
2014-09-10 13:31                                 ` [systemd-devel] " James Bottomley
2014-09-10 21:10                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-11  5:42                                 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-11 21:43                                 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-09-11 22:26                                   ` [systemd-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-12  5:48                                     ` Tom Gundersen
2014-09-12 20:09                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-10-10 21:54                                         ` Anatol Pomozov
2014-10-10 22:45                                           ` Tom Gundersen
2014-10-15 19:41                                             ` Anatol Pomozov
2014-10-15 19:46                                               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-09 21:42                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 22:26                             ` James Bottomley
2014-09-09 22:41                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 22:46                                 ` James Bottomley
2014-09-09 22:52                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-09 23:01                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-11 19:59                                     ` James Bottomley
2014-09-11 20:23                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-11 20:42                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-11 20:53                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-11 21:08                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-22 19:49                                         ` Pavel Machek
2014-09-22 20:23                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-30 21:06                                             ` Pavel Machek
2014-09-30 21:34                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-09-09 22:00                         ` Jiri Kosina
2014-09-05 10:59   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-05 17:35     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05  6:37 ` [RFC v2 4/6] cxgb4: use async probe Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05  6:37 ` [RFC v2 5/6] mptsas: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-09-05  7:16   ` Tejun Heo
2014-09-05  7:23   ` Hannes Reinecke

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