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From: Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>
To: Tobias Waldekranz <tobias@waldekranz.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>
Cc: Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: commit 4c7ea3c0791e (net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: disable SA learning for DSA and CPU ports)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 16:41:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af05538b-7b64-e115-6960-0df8e503dde3@prevas.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7nhlksr.fsf@waldekranz.com>

On 16/01/2021 02.42, Tobias Waldekranz wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 14:49, Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I've noticed something rather odd with my mv88e6250, which led me to the
>> commit in the subject.
>>
>> First, the MAC address of the master device never seems to get learned
>> (at least according to "mv88e6xxx_dump --atu"), so all packets destined
>> for the machine gets flooded out all ports 

[snip]

>> the master device's address doesn't get learned (nor does some garbage
>> address appear in the ATU), and the unicast packets are still forwarded
>> out all ports. So I must be missing something else.
> 
> The thing you are missing is that all packets from the CPU are sent with
> FROM_CPU tags. SA learning is not performed on these as it intended for
> control traffic.

Ah, yes, I do remember stumbling on the tagger using FROM_CPU and
wondering about that at some point. And I didn't recall the somewhat
subtle detail of those being treated as MGMT and thus not participating
in SA learning.

> Ideally, bulk traffic would be sent with a FORWARD tag. But there is
> currently no way for the DSA tagger to discriminate the bulk data from
> control traffic. And changing that is no small task.

Indeed.

> In the mean time we could extend Vladimir's (added to CC) work on
> assisted CPU port learning to include the local bridge addresses. You
> pushed me to take a first stab at this :) Please have a look at this
> series:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20210116012515.3152-1-tobias@waldekranz.com/

I'll try these out, thanks. FWIW, in an earlier BSP there were some
horrible hacks to go behind the kernel's back and add the CPU's address
as a static entry in the switch, which is why I haven't seen this
before. And this was done for much the same reason as we will have to it
now (it implemented ERPS, another ring redundancy protocol).

>> Finally, I'm wondering how the tagging could get in the way of learning
>> the right address, given that the tag is inserted after the DA and SA.
> 
> Yes, but the CPU port is configured in DSA mode, so the switch will use
> the tag command (FROM_CPU) to determine if learning should be done or
> not.

Right, but that comment was directed at commit 4c7ea3c0791e; even if SA
learning did happen, bytes 6-11 of the frame are the same with or
without the tag added, so I don't understand how _corrupted_ addresses
could get learned.

>> What I'm _really_ trying to do is to get my mv88e6250 to participate in
>> an MRP ring, which AFAICT will require that the master device's MAC gets
>> added as a static entry in the ATU: Otherwise, when the ring goes from
>> open to closed, I've seen the switch wrongly learn the node's own mac
>> address as being in the direction of one of the normal ports, which
>> obviously breaks all traffic.
> 
> Well the static entry for the bridge MAC should be installed with the
> aforementioned series applied. So that should not be an issue.

Yes, so there are several good reasons for adding that address
statically to the hardware's database.

> My guess is that MRP will still not work though, as you will probably
> need the ability to trap certain groups to the CPU (management
> entries). I.e. some MRP PDUs must be allowed to ingress on blocked
> ports, no?

Indeed, and I'm currently just using a not-for-mainline patch that
hardcodes the two multicast addresses in the ATU.

--- a/drivers/net/dsa/mv88e6xxx/chip.c
+++ b/drivers/net/dsa/mv88e6xxx/chip.c
@@ -1911,6 +1911,24 @@ static int mv88e6xxx_broadcast_setup(struct
mv88e6xxx_chip *chip, u16 vid)
                err = mv88e6xxx_port_add_broadcast(chip, port, vid);
                if (err)
                        return err;
+
+               if (port != dsa_upstream_port(chip->ds, port))
+                       continue;
+               if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BRIDGE_MRP)) {
+                       static const u8 mrp_dmac[][ETH_ALEN] = {
+                               { 0x1, 0x15, 0x4e, 0x0, 0x0, 0x1 },
+                               { 0x1, 0x15, 0x4e, 0x0, 0x0, 0x3 },
+                       };
+                       const u8 state =
MV88E6XXX_G1_ATU_DATA_STATE_MC_STATIC_DA_MGMT;
+                       int i;
+
+                       for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(mrp_dmac); ++i) {
+                               err = mv88e6xxx_port_db_load_purge(chip,
port,
+
mrp_dmac[i], vid, state);
+                               if (err)
+                                       return err;
+                       }
+               }
        }

        return 0;

because yes, one needs to prevent those frames from being flooded out
all ports automatically.

I suppose the real solution is having userspace do some "bridge mdb add"
yoga, but since no code currently uses
MV88E6XXX_G1_ATU_DATA_STATE_MC_STATIC_DA_MGMT, I don't think there's any
way to actually achieve this. And I have no idea how to represent the
requirement that "frames with this multicast DA are only to be directed
at the CPU" in a hardware-agnostic way.

Rasmus

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-18 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-14 13:49 Rasmus Villemoes
2021-01-16  1:42 ` Tobias Waldekranz
2021-01-18 15:41   ` Rasmus Villemoes [this message]
2021-01-18 17:50     ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-18 18:30       ` Tobias Waldekranz
2021-01-18 19:01         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-18 19:10           ` Tobias Waldekranz
2021-01-18 21:19   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-01-18 22:07     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-01-18 23:08       ` Tobias Waldekranz
2021-01-19  9:15       ` Horatiu Vultur

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