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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
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Subject: RE: [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc()
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 07:50:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB52766327C636245CFA8C9E248C749@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211212233711.GN6385@nvidia.com>

> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 7:37 AM
> 
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 09:55:32PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > Kevin,
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 12 2021 at 01:56, Kevin Tian wrote:
> > >> From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > >> All I can find is drivers/iommu/virtio-iommu.c but I can't find anything
> > >> vIR related there.
> > >
> > > Well, virtio-iommu is a para-virtualized vIOMMU implementations.
> > >
> > > In reality there are also fully emulated vIOMMU implementations (e.g.
> > > Qemu fully emulates Intel/AMD/ARM IOMMUs). In those configurations
> > > the IR logic in existing iommu drivers just apply:
> > >
> > > 	drivers/iommu/intel/irq_remapping.c
> > > 	drivers/iommu/amd/iommu.c
> >
> > thanks for the explanation. So that's a full IOMMU emulation. I was more
> > expecting a paravirtualized lightweight one.
> 
> Kevin can you explain what on earth vIR is for and how does it work??
> 
> Obviously we don't expose the IR machinery to userspace, so at best
> this is somehow changing what the MSI trap does?
> 

Initially it was introduced for supporting more than 255 vCPUs. Due to 
full emulation this capability can certainly support other vIR usages
as observed on bare metal.

vIR doesn't rely on the physical IR presence.

First if the guest doesn't have vfio device then the physical capability
doesn't matter.

Even with vfio device, IR by definition is just about remapping instead
of injection (talk about this part later). The interrupts are always routed
to the host handler first (vfio_msihandler() in this case), which then 
triggers irqfd to call virtual interrupt injection handler (irqfd_wakeup())
in kvm.

This suggests a clear role split between vfio and kvm:

  - vfio is responsible for irq allocation/startup as it is the device driver;
  - kvm takes care of virtual interrupt injection, being a VMM;

The two are connected via irqfd.

Following this split vIR information is completely hidden in userspace.
Qemu calculates the routing information between vGSI and vCPU
(with or without vIR, and for whatever trapped interrupt storages) 
and then registers it to kvm.

When kvm receives a notification via irqfd, it follows irqfd->vGSI->vCPU
and injects a virtual interrupt into the target vCPU.

Then comes an interesting scenario about IOMMU posted interrupt (PI).
This capability allows the IR engine directly converting a physical
interrupt into virtual and then inject it into the guest. Kinda offloading 
the virtual routing information into the hardware.

This is currently achieved via IRQ bypass manager, which helps connect 
vfio (IRQ producer) to kvm (IRQ consumer) around a specific Linux irq 
number. Once the connection is established, kvm calls 
irq_set_vcpu_affinity() to update IRTE with virtual routing information 
for that irq number.

With that design Qemu doesn't know whether IR or PI is enabled 
physically. It always talks to vfio for having IRQ resource allocated and
to kvm for registering virtual routing information.

Then adding the new hypercall machinery into this picture:

  1) The hypercall needs to carry all necessary virtual routing 
     information due to no-trap;

  2) Before querying IRTE data/pair, Qemu needs to complete necessary
     operations as of today to have IRTE ready:

	a) Register irqfd and related GSI routing info to kvm
	b) Allocates/startup IRQs via vfio;

     When PI is enabled, IRTE is ready only after both are completed.

  3) Qemu gets IRTE data/pair from kernel and return to the guest.

Thanks
Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-13  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-27  1:23 [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 01/32] genirq/msi: Move descriptor list to struct msi_device_data Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 02/32] genirq/msi: Add mutex for MSI list protection Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 03/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_alloc/free_irqs_descs_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 04/32] genirq/msi: Provide a set of advanced MSI accessors and iterators Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28  1:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-28 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 14:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 14:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 05/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_alloc_msi_desc() and a simple allocator Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 06/32] genirq/msi: Provide domain flags to allocate/free MSI descriptors automatically Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 07/32] genirq/msi: Count the allocated MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 19:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:23           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 08/32] PCI/MSI: Protect MSI operations Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 09/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_add_msi_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 10/32] PCI/MSI: Let core code free MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 11/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 12/32] x86/pci/xen: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 13/32] xen/pcifront: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 14/32] s390/pci: Rework MSI descriptor walk Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 10:31   ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-11-29 13:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 15/32] powerpc/4xx/hsta: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 16/32] powerpc/cell/axon_msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 17/32] powerpc/pasemi/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_dec() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 18/32] powerpc/fsl_msi: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 19/32] powerpc/mpic_u3msi: Use msi_for_each-desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 20/32] PCI: hv: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 18:21   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 20:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 22:50         ` Dave Jiang
2021-11-29 23:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 23:52           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:29         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 19:21           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 19:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 20:14               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 20:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 21:23                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01  0:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 10:16                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 13:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 17:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:46                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:21                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02  0:01                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 13:55                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 14:23                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 14:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 19:25                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 20:00                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 22:31                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03  0:37                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-03 15:07                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 16:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-04 14:20                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-05 14:16                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:43                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:47                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 17:00                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 20:28                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 21:06                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 22:21                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:19                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:06                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  6:26                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  9:03                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:17                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 15:57                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:37                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:41                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:47                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-12-01 16:28                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 18:41                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                           ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 20:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:21                               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 21:44                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:49                                   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 22:03                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 22:53                                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 23:57                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  5:23                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  8:37                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:31                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 16:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 20:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 20:58                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 22:09                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  0:26                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:29                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:13                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  8:06                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:39                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 19:00                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  7:44                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:04                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  1:56                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:55                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:37                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-13  7:50                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2021-12-11  7:52                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12  0:12                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  2:14                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:50                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:42                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10  7:36                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:30                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-12  6:44                                               ` Mika Penttilä
2021-12-12 23:27                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 14:52                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 15:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:26                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 22/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Rework MSI descriptor allocation Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 23/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Remove ti_sci_inta_msi_domain_free_irqs() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 24/32] bus: fsl-mc-msi: Simplify MSI descriptor handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 25/32] platform-msi: Let core code handle MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 26/32] platform-msi: Simplify platform device MSI code Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 27/32] genirq/msi: Make interrupt allocation less convoluted Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 28/32] genirq/msi: Convert to new functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 29/32] genirq/msi: Mop up old interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 30/32] genirq/msi: Add abuse prevention comment to msi header Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:33         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 32/32] genirq/msi: Convert storage to xarray Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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