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From: Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 18:33:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d21ece1-0201-54f2-ec5a-ae2f873d46a3@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4jKHH7H+PmcsGDxsWA5CS_U3USHM8cT1MhoLk72fa9z8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the enlightening discussion here, it's so helpful!

Please allow me to recap what I've caught up so far -

1. recovery write at page boundary due to NP setting in poisoned
    page to prevent undesirable prefetching
2. single interface to perform 3 tasks:
      { clear-poison, update error-list, write }
    such as an API in pmem driver.
    For CPUs that support MOVEDIR64B, the 'clear-poison' and 'write'
    task can be combined (would need something different from the
    existing _copy_mcsafe though) and 'update error-list' follows
    closely behind;
    For CPUs that rely on firmware call to clear posion, the existing
    pmem_clear_poison() can be used, followed by the 'write' task.
3. if user isn't given RWF_RECOVERY_FLAG flag, then dax recovery
    would be automatic for a write if range is page aligned;
    otherwise, the write fails with EIO as usual.
    Also, user mustn't have punched out the poisoned page in which
    case poison repairing will be a lot more complicated.
4. desirable to fetch as much data as possible from a poisoned range.

If this understanding is in the right direction, then I'd like to
propose below changes to
   dax_direct_access(), dax_copy_to/from_iter(), pmem_copy_to/from_iter()
   and the dm layer copy_to/from_iter, dax_iomap_iter().

1. dax_iomap_iter() rely on dax_direct_access() to decide whether there
    is likely media error: if the API without DAX_F_RECOVERY returns
    -EIO, then switch to recovery-read/write code.  In recovery code,
    supply DAX_F_RECOVERY to dax_direct_access() in order to obtain
    'kaddr', and then call dax_copy_to/from_iter() with DAX_F_RECOVERY.
2. the _copy_to/from_iter implementation would be largely the same
    as in my recent patch, but some changes in Christoph's
    'dax-devirtualize' maybe kept, such as DAX_F_VIRTUAL, obviously
    virtual devices don't have the ability to clear poison, so no need
    to complicate them.  And this also means that not every endpoint
    dax device has to provide dax_op.copy_to/from_iter, they may use the
    default.

I'm not sure about nova and others, if they use different 'write' other
than via iomap, does that mean there will be need for a new set of
dax_op for their read/write?  the 3-in-1 binding would always be
required though. Maybe that'll be an ongoing discussion?

Comments? Suggestions?

Thanks!
-jane





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-04 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21  0:10 [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 1/6] dax: introduce RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag to preadv2() and pwritev2() Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 2/6] dax: prepare dax_direct_access() API with DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY flag Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-21 18:19     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 3/6] pmem: pmem_dax_direct_access() to honor the " Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-21 18:24     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 4/6] dm,dax,pmem: prepare dax_copy_to/from_iter() APIs with DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  0:49     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-22  1:41       ` correction: " Jane Chu
2021-10-22  5:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22 20:30         ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 5/6] dax,pmem: Add data recovery feature to pmem_copy_to/from_iter() Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  0:58     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 6/6] dm: Ensure dm honors DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY flag on dax only Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:31 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  1:37   ` Jane Chu
2021-10-22  1:58     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-22  5:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  5:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22 20:52       ` Jane Chu
2021-10-27  6:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-28  0:24           ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-28 22:59             ` Dave Chinner
2021-10-29 11:46               ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 16:57                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-29 19:23                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 20:08                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-31 13:27                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 18:53                 ` Jane Chu
2021-10-29 22:32                 ` Dave Chinner
2021-10-31 13:19                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-11-01  2:31                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-02  6:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-02 19:57               ` Dan Williams
2021-11-03 16:58                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-03 20:33                   ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04  8:30                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 12:29                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-04 16:24                       ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 17:43                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 17:50                           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 18:05                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-04 18:33                         ` Jane Chu [this message]
2021-11-04 19:00                           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 20:27                             ` Jane Chu
2021-11-05  0:46                               ` Dan Williams
2021-11-05  1:35                                 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-05  5:56                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-03 18:09               ` Jane Chu
2021-11-04  6:21                 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04  8:36                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 16:08                     ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 17:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04  8:21                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-02 16:12             ` Dan Williams
2021-11-02 16:03           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-03 16:53             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-06  7:41             ` Lukas Straub

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