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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
	"dan.j.williams@intel.com" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"vishal.l.verma@intel.com" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	"dave.jiang@intel.com" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"agk@redhat.com" <agk@redhat.com>,
	"snitzer@redhat.com" <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"ira.weiny@intel.com" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	"vgoyal@redhat.com" <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nvdimm@lists.linux.dev" <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 02:31:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YX9RftrcBNwgyCXc@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a76314d-9b62-82a3-2787-96e6b83720fc@gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 01:19:48PM +0000, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 10/29/21 23:32, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > Yup, you just described RWF_HIPRI! Seriously, Pavel, did you read
> > past this?  I'll quote what I said again, because I've already
> > addressed this argument to point out how silly it is:
> 
> And you almost got to the initial point in your penult paragraph. A
> single if for a single flag is not an issue, what is the problem is
> when there are dozens of them and the overhead for it is not isolated,
> so the kernel has to jump through dozens of those.

This argument can be used to reject *ANY* new feature.  For example, by
using your argument, we should have rejected the addition of IOCB_WAITQ
because it penalises the vast majority of IOs which do not use it.

But we didn't.  Because we see that while it may not be of use to US
today, it's a generally useful feature for Linux to support.  You say
yourself that this feature doesn't slow down your use case, so why are
you spending so much time and energy annoying the people who actually
want to use it?

Seriously.  Stop arguing about something you actually don't care about.
You're just making Linux less fun to work on.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-01  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21  0:10 [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 1/6] dax: introduce RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag to preadv2() and pwritev2() Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 2/6] dax: prepare dax_direct_access() API with DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY flag Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-21 18:19     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 3/6] pmem: pmem_dax_direct_access() to honor the " Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-21 18:24     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 4/6] dm,dax,pmem: prepare dax_copy_to/from_iter() APIs with DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  0:49     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-22  1:41       ` correction: " Jane Chu
2021-10-22  5:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22 20:30         ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 5/6] dax,pmem: Add data recovery feature to pmem_copy_to/from_iter() Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  0:58     ` Jane Chu
2021-10-21  0:10 ` [PATCH 6/6] dm: Ensure dm honors DAXDEV_F_RECOVERY flag on dax only Jane Chu
2021-10-21 11:31 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA flag Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  1:37   ` Jane Chu
2021-10-22  1:58     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-22  5:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22  5:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-22 20:52       ` Jane Chu
2021-10-27  6:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-28  0:24           ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-28 22:59             ` Dave Chinner
2021-10-29 11:46               ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 16:57                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-29 19:23                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 20:08                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-31 13:27                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-29 18:53                 ` Jane Chu
2021-10-29 22:32                 ` Dave Chinner
2021-10-31 13:19                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-11-01  2:31                     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-11-02  6:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-02 19:57               ` Dan Williams
2021-11-03 16:58                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-03 20:33                   ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04  8:30                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 12:29                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-04 16:24                       ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 17:43                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 17:50                           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 18:05                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-11-04 18:33                         ` Jane Chu
2021-11-04 19:00                           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 20:27                             ` Jane Chu
2021-11-05  0:46                               ` Dan Williams
2021-11-05  1:35                                 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-05  5:56                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-03 18:09               ` Jane Chu
2021-11-04  6:21                 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04  8:36                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04 16:08                     ` Dan Williams
2021-11-04 17:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-04  8:21                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-02 16:12             ` Dan Williams
2021-11-02 16:03           ` Dan Williams
2021-11-03 16:53             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-06  7:41             ` Lukas Straub

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