* [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ @ 2019-07-18 6:25 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé 2019-07-18 7:10 ` Thomas Huth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé @ 2019-07-18 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: QEMU Developers, Thomas Huth, Daniel P. Berrange, Stefan Weil When building from the GitHub generated archive (https://github.com/qemu/qemu/archive/v4.1.0-rc0.tar.gz) we get: --- $ ./configure ERROR: missing file /tmp/qemu-4.1.0-rc0/ui/keycodemapdb/README This is not a GIT checkout but module content appears to be missing. Do not use 'git archive' or GitHub download links to acquire QEMU source archives. Non-GIT builds are only supported with source archives linked from: https://www.qemu.org/download/ Developers working with GIT can use scripts/archive-source.sh if they need to create valid source archives. --- Now there are no archive to download at this url... However from the last mail from Michael Roth, we use: http://download.qemu-project.org/ Which contains all archives. Should we update the url display by ./configure? Or sync the other website? Regards, Phil. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ 2019-07-18 6:25 [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ Philippe Mathieu-Daudé @ 2019-07-18 7:10 ` Thomas Huth 2019-07-18 8:58 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas Huth @ 2019-07-18 7:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, QEMU Developers, Daniel P. Berrange, Stefan Weil On 18/07/2019 08.25, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > When building from the GitHub generated archive > (https://github.com/qemu/qemu/archive/v4.1.0-rc0.tar.gz) > we get: > > --- > $ ./configure > > ERROR: missing file /tmp/qemu-4.1.0-rc0/ui/keycodemapdb/README > > This is not a GIT checkout but module content appears to > be missing. Do not use 'git archive' or GitHub download links > to acquire QEMU source archives. Non-GIT builds are only > supported with source archives linked from: > > https://www.qemu.org/download/ > > Developers working with GIT can use scripts/archive-source.sh > if they need to create valid source archives. > --- > > Now there are no archive to download at this url... You just have to click on the "Source code" tab ... is that too hard? Thomas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ 2019-07-18 7:10 ` Thomas Huth @ 2019-07-18 8:58 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [not found] ` <CAL1e-=iLLQfAdfFrKpAT9k48X0sEMevBXFWAmny7PRPwtBMiEQ@mail.gmail.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé @ 2019-07-18 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Huth, QEMU Developers, Daniel P. Berrange, Stefan Weil On 7/18/19 9:10 AM, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 18/07/2019 08.25, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: >> When building from the GitHub generated archive >> (https://github.com/qemu/qemu/archive/v4.1.0-rc0.tar.gz) >> we get: >> >> --- >> $ ./configure >> >> ERROR: missing file /tmp/qemu-4.1.0-rc0/ui/keycodemapdb/README >> >> This is not a GIT checkout but module content appears to >> be missing. Do not use 'git archive' or GitHub download links >> to acquire QEMU source archives. Non-GIT builds are only >> supported with source archives linked from: >> >> https://www.qemu.org/download/ >> >> Developers working with GIT can use scripts/archive-source.sh >> if they need to create valid source archives. >> --- >> >> Now there are no archive to download at this url... > > You just have to click on the "Source code" tab ... is that too hard? Argh it has been a rough night, now I feel ashamed. I scrolled but missed that tab. Really sorry for crying wolf here :/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ [not found] ` <CAL1e-=iLLQfAdfFrKpAT9k48X0sEMevBXFWAmny7PRPwtBMiEQ@mail.gmail.com> @ 2019-07-18 11:29 ` Thomas Huth 2019-07-18 11:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé 2019-07-18 11:49 ` Stefan Weil 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas Huth @ 2019-07-18 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Aleksandar Markovic, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé Cc: Stefan Weil, Daniel P. Berrange, QEMU Developers On 18/07/2019 12.55, Aleksandar Markovic wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> > wrote: >> >> On 7/18/19 9:10 AM, Thomas Huth wrote: >>> On 18/07/2019 08.25, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > >>>> ... > >>>> Now there are no archive to download at this url... >>> >>> You just have to click on the "Source code" tab ... is that too hard? >> >> Argh it has been a rough night, now I feel ashamed. I scrolled but >> missed that tab. Really sorry for crying wolf here :/ >> > > Download QEMU page <https://www.qemu.org/download/> > > In all fairness to Philippe, this page could be better in terms of > human-computer interaction... If one presses 'Download', one > expects to get to the download links directly or obviously easily. I guess we should simply re-arrange the order of the tabs ... the OS-agnostic source code tab should come first (since this is about what we provide for download on our site), and then the others with references to the distros etc. Does someone care to send a patch? Thomas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ 2019-07-18 11:29 ` Thomas Huth @ 2019-07-18 11:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé 2019-07-18 11:53 ` Thomas Huth 2019-07-18 12:20 ` Aleksandar Markovic 2019-07-18 11:49 ` Stefan Weil 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Daniel P. Berrangé @ 2019-07-18 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Huth Cc: Stefan Weil, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, QEMU Developers, Aleksandar Markovic On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 01:29:02PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 18/07/2019 12.55, Aleksandar Markovic wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> On 7/18/19 9:10 AM, Thomas Huth wrote: > >>> On 18/07/2019 08.25, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > > > >>>> ... > > > >>>> Now there are no archive to download at this url... > >>> > >>> You just have to click on the "Source code" tab ... is that too hard? > >> > >> Argh it has been a rough night, now I feel ashamed. I scrolled but > >> missed that tab. Really sorry for crying wolf here :/ > >> > > > > Download QEMU page <https://www.qemu.org/download/> > > > > In all fairness to Philippe, this page could be better in terms of > > human-computer interaction... If one presses 'Download', one > > expects to get to the download links directly or obviously easily. > > I guess we should simply re-arrange the order of the tabs ... the > OS-agnostic source code tab should come first (since this is about what > we provide for download on our site), and then the others with > references to the distros etc. I'm not sure it is clear cut. I think its reasonable to say that users coming to QEMU are best served by using distro provided packages. Only those wishing to actually hack on QEMU, or who need newer than the distro provides, should prefer the source. Building from source has many more potential hurdles / failure points than installing distro packages, which can leave users with a worse first experience of QEMU. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ 2019-07-18 11:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé @ 2019-07-18 11:53 ` Thomas Huth 2019-07-18 12:20 ` Aleksandar Markovic 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas Huth @ 2019-07-18 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Daniel P. Berrangé Cc: Stefan Weil, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, QEMU Developers, Aleksandar Markovic On 18/07/2019 13.43, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 01:29:02PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: >> On 18/07/2019 12.55, Aleksandar Markovic wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 7/18/19 9:10 AM, Thomas Huth wrote: >>>>> On 18/07/2019 08.25, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: >>> >>>>>> ... >>> >>>>>> Now there are no archive to download at this url... >>>>> >>>>> You just have to click on the "Source code" tab ... is that too hard? >>>> >>>> Argh it has been a rough night, now I feel ashamed. I scrolled but >>>> missed that tab. Really sorry for crying wolf here :/ >>>> >>> >>> Download QEMU page <https://www.qemu.org/download/> >>> >>> In all fairness to Philippe, this page could be better in terms of >>> human-computer interaction... If one presses 'Download', one >>> expects to get to the download links directly or obviously easily. >> >> I guess we should simply re-arrange the order of the tabs ... the >> OS-agnostic source code tab should come first (since this is about what >> we provide for download on our site), and then the others with >> references to the distros etc. > > I'm not sure it is clear cut. I think its reasonable to say that users > coming to QEMU are best served by using distro provided packages. Only > those wishing to actually hack on QEMU, or who need newer than the > distro provides, should prefer the source. Building from source has many > more potential hurdles / failure points than installing distro packages, > which can leave users with a worse first experience of QEMU. Well, yes, but actually I think these users won't visit the QEMU download page in the first place. They simply do "dnf search qemu" and then "dnf install ..." (with s/dnf/$package_tool_of_their_distro/) and are done with it. At least this is what I do when I want to install an additional software (without compiling it on my own) - I hardly visit their website first. Thomas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ 2019-07-18 11:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé 2019-07-18 11:53 ` Thomas Huth @ 2019-07-18 12:20 ` Aleksandar Markovic 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Aleksandar Markovic @ 2019-07-18 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Daniel P. Berrangé Cc: Stefan Weil, Thomas Huth, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, QEMU Developers On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:43 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 01:29:02PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > > On 18/07/2019 12.55, Aleksandar Markovic wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:58 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé < > philmd@redhat.com> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> On 7/18/19 9:10 AM, Thomas Huth wrote: > > >>> On 18/07/2019 08.25, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > > > > > >>>> ... > > > > > >>>> Now there are no archive to download at this url... > > >>> > > >>> You just have to click on the "Source code" tab ... is that too hard? > > >> > > >> Argh it has been a rough night, now I feel ashamed. I scrolled but > > >> missed that tab. Really sorry for crying wolf here :/ > > >> > > > > > > Download QEMU page <https://www.qemu.org/download/> > > > > > > In all fairness to Philippe, this page could be better in terms of > > > human-computer interaction... If one presses 'Download', one > > > expects to get to the download links directly or obviously easily. > > > > I guess we should simply re-arrange the order of the tabs ... the > > OS-agnostic source code tab should come first (since this is about what > > we provide for download on our site), and then the others with > > references to the distros etc. > > I'm not sure it is clear cut. I think its reasonable to say that users > coming to QEMU are best served by using distro provided packages. Only > those wishing to actually hack on QEMU, or who need newer than the > distro provides, should prefer the source. Building from source has many > more potential hurdles / failure points than installing distro packages, > which can leave users with a worse first experience of QEMU. > > Yes, Daniel, but here we blend two visitor activities onto a single page: download source (and build), and install QEMU (from prebuilt binaries). Now wonder a confusion arises. Yours, Aleksandar > Regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- > https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- > https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ 2019-07-18 11:29 ` Thomas Huth 2019-07-18 11:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé @ 2019-07-18 11:49 ` Stefan Weil 2019-07-18 13:14 ` Peter Maydell 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Stefan Weil @ 2019-07-18 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Huth, Aleksandar Markovic, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé Cc: Daniel P. Berrange, QEMU Developers Am 18.07.2019 um 13:29 schrieb Thomas Huth: > I guess we should simply re-arrange the order of the tabs ... the > OS-agnostic source code tab should come first (since this is about what > we provide for download on our site), and then the others with > references to the distros etc. > > Does someone care to send a patch? Wouldn't changing the link to https://www.qemu.org/download/#source be even simpler? Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] No archives to download from www.qemu.org/download/ 2019-07-18 11:49 ` Stefan Weil @ 2019-07-18 13:14 ` Peter Maydell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Maydell @ 2019-07-18 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Weil Cc: Daniel P. Berrange, Thomas Huth, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, QEMU Developers, Aleksandar Markovic On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 12:50, Stefan Weil <sw@weilnetz.de> wrote: > > Am 18.07.2019 um 13:29 schrieb Thomas Huth: > > I guess we should simply re-arrange the order of the tabs ... the > > OS-agnostic source code tab should come first (since this is about what > > we provide for download on our site), and then the others with > > references to the distros etc. > > > > Does someone care to send a patch? > > > Wouldn't changing the link to https://www.qemu.org/download/#source be > even simpler? This gets my vote -- I'll send a configure patch... thanks -- PMM ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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