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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"richard.henderson@linaro.org" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"eric.auger@redhat.com" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-arm@nongnu.org" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	"imammedo@redhat.com" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"alex.bennee@linaro.org" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/14] target/arm/cpu64: max cpu: Introduce sve<vl-bits> properties
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:05:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190624110526.GH2790@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190621163422.6127-8-drjones@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 05:34:15PM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> Introduce cpu properties to give fine control over SVE vector lengths.
> We introduce a property for each valid length up to the current
> maximum supported, which is 2048-bits. The properties are named, e.g.
> sve128, sve256, sve512, ..., where the number is the number of bits.
> 
> It's now possible to do something like -cpu max,sve-max-vq=4,sve384=off
> to provide a guest vector lengths 128, 256, and 512 bits. The resulting
> set must conform to the architectural constraint of having all power-of-2
> lengths smaller than the maximum length present. It's also possible to
> only provide sve<vl-bits> properties, e.g. -cpu max,sve512=on. That
> example provides the machine with 128, 256, and 512 bit vector lengths.
> It doesn't hurt to explicitly ask for all expected vector lengths,
> which is what, for example, libvirt should do.
> 
> Note1, it is not possible to use sve<vl-bits> properties before
> sve-max-vq, e.g. -cpu max,sve384=off,sve-max-vq=4, as supporting
> that overly complicates the user input validation.
> 
> Note2, while one might expect -cpu max,sve-max-vq=4,sve512=on to be the
> same as -cpu max,sve512=on, they are not. The former enables all vector
> lengths 512 bits and smaller, while the latter only sets the 512-bit
> length and its smaller power-of-2 lengths. It's probably best not to use
> sve-max-vq with sve<vl-bits> properties, but it can't be completely
> forbidden as we want qmp_query_cpu_model_expansion to work with guests
> launched with e.g. -cpu max,sve-max-vq=8 on their command line.

Supporting both options together in a non-idempotent way seems to
complicate things.

Would it be simpler to allow sve-max-vq only when there are no sve<bits>
options?

Alternatively, the two options would be defined so that their meanings
are independent of parse order.

So, way sve-max-vq=<max> means that:

 * all VQs up to max for which there is no corresponding sve<bits>=off,
   are enabled; and

 * VQ max is enabled; and

 * all VQs exceeding max are disabled.

While sve<bits>=(on|off) means

 * the VQ coresponding to <bits> is enabled (for on) or disabled (for
   off).
 
After parsing all the options, you check that the sve-max-vq and
sve<bits> optinos are consistent.  If you disallow duplicate sve-max-vq
or sve<bits> options, then there is no possibility of ambiguity and the
order or options doesn't matter.

(There may be constraints on the way qemu options parsing works that
make this hard, though...)

Having sve-max-vq in 128-bit units while sve<bits> are named in terms of
bit counts also feels a bit odd now.

[...]

Cheers
---Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-24 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-21 16:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/14] target/arm/kvm: enable SVE in guests Andrew Jones
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/14] target/arm/cpu64: Ensure kvm really supports aarch64=off Andrew Jones
2019-06-25  9:35   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-25 13:34     ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-24 12:51       ` Auger Eric
2019-07-24 13:52         ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-24 14:19           ` Auger Eric
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/14] target/arm/cpu: Ensure we can use the pmu with kvm Andrew Jones
2019-06-25  9:35   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-26  9:49   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-26 13:11     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/14] target/arm/monitor: Introduce qmp_query_cpu_model_expansion Andrew Jones
2019-06-26  7:43   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-26 13:26     ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-24 12:51       ` Auger Eric
2019-07-24 14:05         ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-24 14:25           ` Auger Eric
2019-07-24 14:44             ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-24 12:55       ` Auger Eric
2019-07-24 14:13         ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-25  8:04   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/14] tests: arm: Introduce cpu feature tests Andrew Jones
2019-07-25  7:54   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/14] target/arm/helper: zcr: Add build bug next to value range assumption Andrew Jones
2019-06-24 11:05   ` Dave Martin
2019-06-24 11:30     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-24 16:03       ` Dave Martin
2019-06-25  6:11         ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-25  6:14           ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 10:01   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-26 13:28     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 13:40       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-26 13:58         ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 14:06           ` Auger Eric
2019-06-26 10:07   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/14] target/arm: Allow SVE to be disabled via a CPU property Andrew Jones
2019-06-21 16:55   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-06-21 17:11     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 10:00   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-26 13:38     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 10:20   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-26 13:52     ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-17 15:43       ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/14] target/arm/cpu64: max cpu: Introduce sve<vl-bits> properties Andrew Jones
2019-06-24 11:05   ` Dave Martin [this message]
2019-06-24 11:49     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-24 12:10       ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-24 16:06         ` Dave Martin
2019-06-26 14:58   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-27  9:40     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-27 10:51       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-27 11:43         ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 16:56   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-27 10:46     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-27 11:00       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-27 11:47         ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-27 15:16           ` Dave Martin
2019-06-27 16:19             ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-27 16:49   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-28  7:27     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-28  8:31       ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-29  0:10       ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-17  8:13         ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/14] target/arm/kvm64: Fix error returns Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 10:53   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-26 11:50   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/14] target/arm/kvm64: Move the get/put of fpsimd registers out Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 10:35   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/14] target/arm/kvm64: Add kvm_arch_get/put_sve Andrew Jones
2019-06-24 11:05   ` Dave Martin
2019-06-24 11:55     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-24 16:09       ` Dave Martin
2019-06-26 15:22   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-27 10:59     ` Dave Martin
2019-06-27 11:26       ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-27 15:02         ` Dave Martin
2019-07-17  9:25           ` Andrew Jones
2019-07-17  9:35     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-27  6:56   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-27 10:59     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/14] target/arm/kvm64: max cpu: Enable SVE when available Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 11:09   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-27 11:56     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-28 16:14   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/14] target/arm/kvm: scratch vcpu: Preserve input kvm_vcpu_init features Andrew Jones
2019-06-26 11:11   ` Richard Henderson
2019-06-27  7:30   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-27 10:53     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-27 11:01     ` Dave Martin
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/14] target/arm/cpu64: max cpu: Support sve properties with KVM Andrew Jones
2019-06-28 15:55   ` Auger Eric
2019-07-17  8:41     ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-21 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/14] target/arm/kvm: host cpu: Add support for sve<vl-bits> properties Andrew Jones
2019-06-27 17:15   ` Auger Eric
2019-06-28  7:05     ` Andrew Jones

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