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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Barani Muthukumaran <bmuthuku@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Kuohong Wang <kuohong.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Kim Boojin <boojin.kim@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/9] block: Add encryption context to struct bio
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 19:47:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1fthhdttv.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191218222726.GC47399@gmail.com> (Eric Biggers's message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2019 14:27:26 -0800")


Eric,

> There's not really any such thing as "use the bio integrity plumbing".
> blk-integrity just does blk-integrity; it's not a plumbing layer that
> allows other features to be supported.  Well, in theory we could
> refactor and rename all the hooks to "blk-extra" and make them
> delegate to either blk-integrity or blk-crypto, but I think that would
> be overkill.

I certainly don't expect your crypto stuff to plug in without any
modification to what we currently have. I'm just observing that the
existing plumbing is designed to have pluggable functions that let
filesystems attach additional information to bios on writes and process
additional attached information on reads. And the block layer already
handles slicing and dicing these attachments as the I/O traverses the
stack.

There's also other stuff that probably won't be directly applicable or
interesting for your use case. It just seems like identifying actual
commonalities and differences would be worthwhile.

Note that substantial changes to the integrity code would inevitably
lead to a lot of pain and suffering for me. So from that perspective I
am very happy if you leave it alone. From an architectural viewpoint,
however, it seems that there are more similarities than differences
between crypto and integrity. And we should avoid duplication where
possible. That's all.

> What we could do, though, is say that at most one of blk-crypto and
> blk-integrity can be used at once on a given bio, and put the
> bi_integrity and bi_crypt_context pointers in union.  (That would
> require allocating a REQ_INLINECRYPT bit so that we can tell what the
> pointer points to.)

Absolutely. That's why it's a union. Putting your stuff there is a
prerequisite as far as I'm concerned. No need to grow the bio when the
two features are unlikely to coexist. We can revisit that later should
the need arise.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Kuohong Wang <kuohong.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Kim Boojin <boojin.kim@samsung.com>,
	Barani Muthukumaran <bmuthuku@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v6 2/9] block: Add encryption context to struct bio
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 19:47:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1fthhdttv.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191218222726.GC47399@gmail.com> (Eric Biggers's message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2019 14:27:26 -0800")


Eric,

> There's not really any such thing as "use the bio integrity plumbing".
> blk-integrity just does blk-integrity; it's not a plumbing layer that
> allows other features to be supported.  Well, in theory we could
> refactor and rename all the hooks to "blk-extra" and make them
> delegate to either blk-integrity or blk-crypto, but I think that would
> be overkill.

I certainly don't expect your crypto stuff to plug in without any
modification to what we currently have. I'm just observing that the
existing plumbing is designed to have pluggable functions that let
filesystems attach additional information to bios on writes and process
additional attached information on reads. And the block layer already
handles slicing and dicing these attachments as the I/O traverses the
stack.

There's also other stuff that probably won't be directly applicable or
interesting for your use case. It just seems like identifying actual
commonalities and differences would be worthwhile.

Note that substantial changes to the integrity code would inevitably
lead to a lot of pain and suffering for me. So from that perspective I
am very happy if you leave it alone. From an architectural viewpoint,
however, it seems that there are more similarities than differences
between crypto and integrity. And we should avoid duplication where
possible. That's all.

> What we could do, though, is say that at most one of blk-crypto and
> blk-integrity can be used at once on a given bio, and put the
> bi_integrity and bi_crypt_context pointers in union.  (That would
> require allocating a REQ_INLINECRYPT bit so that we can tell what the
> pointer points to.)

Absolutely. That's why it's a union. Putting your stuff there is a
prerequisite as far as I'm concerned. No need to grow the bio when the
two features are unlikely to coexist. We can revisit that later should
the need arise.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-19  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-18 14:51 [PATCH v6 0/9] Inline Encryption Support Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] block: Keyslot Manager for Inline Encryption Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-18 20:13   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 20:13     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-17  9:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-17  9:10     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] block: Add encryption context to struct bio Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-18 21:10   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 21:10     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 21:21   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-12-18 21:21     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong
2019-12-18 21:25     ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-12-18 21:25       ` [f2fs-dev] " Martin K. Petersen
2019-12-18 22:27       ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 22:27         ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-19  0:47         ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2019-12-19  0:47           ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-12-20  3:52           ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-20  3:52             ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-07  4:35             ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-01-07  4:35               ` [f2fs-dev] " Martin K. Petersen
2020-01-08 14:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-08 14:07             ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-08 17:26             ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-08 17:26               ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-17  8:32               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-17  8:32                 ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-18  5:11                 ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-18  5:11                   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-21 22:05                   ` Satya Tangirala
2020-01-21 22:05                     ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2020-01-09  3:40             ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-01-09  3:40               ` [f2fs-dev] " Martin K. Petersen
2020-01-14 21:24   ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-14 21:24     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] block: blk-crypto for Inline Encryption Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-20  3:14   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-20  3:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-20  5:10   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-20  5:10     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-14 21:22   ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-14 21:22     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] scsi: ufs: UFS driver v2.1 spec crypto additions Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2020-01-17 12:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-17 12:31     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] scsi: ufs: UFS crypto API Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-20  4:48   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-20  4:48     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-14 21:16     ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-14 21:16       ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-17 13:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-17 13:51     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] scsi: ufs: Add inline encryption support to UFS Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-20  5:44   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-20  5:44     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-17 13:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-17 13:58     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-18  5:27     ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-18  5:27       ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-02-05 18:07       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-05 18:07         ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-18  3:58   ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-18  3:58     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-02-05 20:47   ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-05 20:47     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] fscrypt: add inline encryption support Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2020-01-14 21:12   ` Eric Biggers
2020-01-14 21:12     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] f2fs: " Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-20  4:23   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-20  4:23     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-18 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] ext4: " Satya Tangirala
2019-12-18 14:51   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-19  0:12   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-19  0:12     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-12-19  0:31     ` Satya Tangirala
2019-12-19  0:31       ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-12-22  0:16   ` Eric Biggers
2019-12-22  0:16     ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-01-08 14:05 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] Inline Encryption Support Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-08 14:05   ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-08 18:43   ` Satya Tangirala
2020-01-08 18:43     ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2020-01-17  8:52     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-17  8:52       ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-01  0:53       ` Satya Tangirala
2020-02-01  0:53         ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2020-02-03  9:15         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-03  9:15           ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-04  3:39           ` Satya Tangirala
2020-02-04  3:39             ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2020-02-04 14:58             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-04 14:58               ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-04 21:21               ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-04 21:21                 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-02-05  7:36                 ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-05  7:36                   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-02-05 18:05                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-05 18:05                     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-21 12:30                     ` Satya Tangirala
2020-02-21 12:30                       ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2020-02-21 14:20                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-21 14:20                         ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig

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