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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: a.hindborg@samsung.com, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, arve@android.com,
	benno.lossin@proton.me, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, cmllamas@google.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, dxu@dxuuu.xyz, gary@garyguo.net,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, joel@joelfernandes.org,
	keescook@chromium.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, maco@android.com, ojeda@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	surenb@google.com, tglx@linutronix.de, tkjos@android.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, wedsonaf@gmail.com, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation`
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:09:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231130-lernziel-rennen-0a5450188276@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231129165551.3476910-1-aliceryhl@google.com>

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 04:55:51PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> writes:
> > Can we follow the traditional file terminology, i.e.,
> > get_unused_fd_flags() and fd_install()? At least at the beginning this
> > might be quite helpful instead of having to mentally map new() and
> > commit() onto the C functions.
> 
> Sure, I'll do that in the next version.
> 
> >> +    /// Prevent values of this type from being moved to a different task.
> >> +    ///
> >> +    /// This is necessary because the C FFI calls assume that `current` is set to the task that
> >> +    /// owns the fd in question.
> >> +    _not_send_sync: PhantomData<*mut ()>,
> > 
> > I don't fully understand this. Can you explain in a little more detail
> > what you mean by this and how this works?
> 
> Yeah, so, this has to do with the Rust trait `Send` that controls
> whether it's okay for a value to get moved from one thread to another.
> In this case, we don't want it to be `Send` so that it can't be moved to
> another thread, since current might be different there.
> 
> The `Send` trait is automatically applied to structs whenever *all*
> fields of the struct are `Send`. So to ensure that a struct is not
> `Send`, you add a field that is not `Send`.
> 
> The `PhantomData` type used here is a special zero-sized type.
> Basically, it says "pretend this struct has a field of type `*mut ()`,
> but don't actually add the field". So for the purposes of `Send`, it has
> a non-Send field, but since its wrapped in `PhantomData`, the field is
> not there at runtime.

This probably a stupid suggestion, question. But while PhantomData gives
the right hint of what is happening I wouldn't mind if that was very
explicitly called NoSendTrait or just add the explanatory comment. Yes,
that's a lot of verbiage but you'd help us a lot.

> 
> >> +        Ok(Self {
> >> +            fd: fd as _,
> > 
> > This is a cast to a u32?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > Can you please draft a quick example how that return value would be
> > expected to be used by a caller? It's really not clear
> 
> The most basic usage would look like this:
> 
> 	// First, reserve the fd.
> 	let reservation = FileDescriptorReservation::new(O_CLOEXEC)?;
> 
> 	// Then, somehow get a file to put in it.
> 	let file = get_file_using_fallible_operation()?;
> 
> 	// Finally, commit it to the fd.
> 	reservation.commit(file);

Ok, the reason I asked was that I was confused about the PhantomData and
how that would figure into using the return value as I hadn't seen that
Ok(Self { }) syntax before. Thanks.
  
> 
> In Rust Binder, reservations are used here:
> https://github.com/Darksonn/linux/blob/dca45e6c7848e024709b165a306cdbe88e5b086a/drivers/android/allocation.rs#L199-L210
> https://github.com/Darksonn/linux/blob/dca45e6c7848e024709b165a306cdbe88e5b086a/drivers/android/allocation.rs#L512-L541
> 
> >> +    pub fn commit(self, file: ARef<File>) {
> >> +        // SAFETY: `self.fd` was previously returned by `get_unused_fd_flags`, and `file.ptr` is
> >> +        // guaranteed to have an owned ref count by its type invariants.
> >> +        unsafe { bindings::fd_install(self.fd, file.0.get()) };
> > 
> > Why file.0.get()? Where did that come from?
> 
> This gets a raw pointer to the C type.
> 
> The `.0` part is a field access. `ARef` struct is a tuple struct, so its

Ah, there we go. It's a bit ugly tbh.

> fields are unnamed. However, the fields can still be accessed by index.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-29 12:51 [PATCH 0/7] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 12:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 15:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-29 15:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-29 17:08       ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-30 10:42         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 15:25           ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01  8:53             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01  9:19               ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01  9:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 10:36                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 11:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01  9:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01  9:52               ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-29 16:42     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 15:02     ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 17:06   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 21:27     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 23:17       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 10:48       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 12:10         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 12:36           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 14:53   ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 14:59     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-30 15:46       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 15:56         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-30 15:58         ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-30 16:12           ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01  1:16             ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-01 12:11             ` David Laight
2023-12-01 12:27               ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-01 15:04                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-01 15:14                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 17:25                     ` David Laight
2023-12-01 17:37                       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 12:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] rust: cred: add Rust abstraction for `struct cred` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 16:17   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01  9:06     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-01 10:27       ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-04 15:42         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:11 ` [PATCH 3/7] rust: security: add abstraction for secctx Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 16:26   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 10:48     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-02 10:03       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 13:11 ` [PATCH 4/7] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:14   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:55     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 17:14       ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30  9:12         ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30  9:23           ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30  9:09       ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-11-30  9:17         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 10:51           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 11:54             ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 12:17               ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 12:33                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 16:40   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:32     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 5/7] rust: file: add `Kuid` wrapper Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:28   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 12:46       ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-06 19:59         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 16:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-08 19:58             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08  5:28         ` comex
2023-12-08 16:19           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-08 17:08             ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-12-08 17:37               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-08 17:43               ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-08 20:43               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-09  7:24             ` comex
2023-11-30  9:36     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 10:52       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 10:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-06 20:02     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-07  7:18       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-07  7:46         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-11-30 16:48   ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 6/7] rust: file: add `DeferredFdCloser` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 17:12   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:35     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-02 10:16       ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-05 14:43         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-05 18:16           ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 7/7] rust: file: add abstraction for `poll_table` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 17:42   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:47     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 22:39   ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 11:50     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 22:50   ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-29 16:31 ` [PATCH 0/7] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:48   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-06 20:05   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 16:59     ` Miguel Ojeda

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