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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, a.hindborg@samsung.com,
	alex.gaynor@gmail.com, arve@android.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation`
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:17:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nFDPJFnzE9Q5cqY7FwSMByRH2OAn_BpI4H53NQfWIlN6I2qfmAqnkp2wRqn0XjMO65OyZY4h6P4K2nAGKJpAOSzksYXaiAK_FoH_8QbgBI4=@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231130115451.138496-1-aliceryhl@google.com>

On 30.11.23 12:54, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> writes:
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 09:17:56AM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>>> Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> writes:
>>>>>>> +    /// Prevent values of this type from being moved to a different task.
>>>>>>> +    ///
>>>>>>> +    /// This is necessary because the C FFI calls assume that `current` is set to the task that
>>>>>>> +    /// owns the fd in question.
>>>>>>> +    _not_send_sync: PhantomData<*mut ()>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't fully understand this. Can you explain in a little more detail
>>>>>> what you mean by this and how this works?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, so, this has to do with the Rust trait `Send` that controls
>>>>> whether it's okay for a value to get moved from one thread to another.
>>>>> In this case, we don't want it to be `Send` so that it can't be moved to
>>>>> another thread, since current might be different there.
>>>>>
>>>>> The `Send` trait is automatically applied to structs whenever *all*
>>>>> fields of the struct are `Send`. So to ensure that a struct is not
>>>>> `Send`, you add a field that is not `Send`.
>>>>>
>>>>> The `PhantomData` type used here is a special zero-sized type.
>>>>> Basically, it says "pretend this struct has a field of type `*mut ()`,
>>>>> but don't actually add the field". So for the purposes of `Send`, it has
>>>>> a non-Send field, but since its wrapped in `PhantomData`, the field is
>>>>> not there at runtime.
>>>>
>>>> This probably a stupid suggestion, question. But while PhantomData gives
>>>> the right hint of what is happening I wouldn't mind if that was very
>>>> explicitly called NoSendTrait or just add the explanatory comment. Yes,
>>>> that's a lot of verbiage but you'd help us a lot.
>>>
>>> I suppose we could add a typedef:
>>>
>>> type NoSendTrait = PhantomData<*mut ()>;
>>>
>>> and use that as the field type. The way I did it here is the "standard"
>>> way of doing it, and if you look at code outside the kernel, you will
>>> also find them using `PhantomData` like this. However, I don't mind
>>> adding the typedef if you think it is helpful.
>>
>> I'm fine with just a comment as well. I just need to be able to read
>> this a bit faster. I'm basically losing half a day just dealing with
>> this patchset and that's not realistic if I want to keep up with other
>> patches that get sent.
>>
>> And if you resend and someone else review you might have to answer the
>> same question again.
> 
> What do you think about this wording?
> 
> /// Prevent values of this type from being moved to a different task.
> ///
> /// This field has the type `PhantomData<*mut ()>`, which does not
> /// implement the Send trait. By adding a field with this property, we
> /// ensure that the `FileDescriptorReservation` struct will not
> /// implement the Send trait either. This has the consequence that the
> /// compiler will prevent you from moving values of type
> /// `FileDescriptorReservation` into a different task, which we want
> /// because other tasks might have a different value of `current`. We
> /// want to avoid that because `fd_install` assumes that the value of
> /// `current` is unchanged since the call to `get_unused_fd_flags`.
> ///
> /// The `PhantomData` type has size zero, so the field does not exist at
> /// runtime.
> 
> Alice

I don't think it is a good idea to add this big comment to every
`PhantomData` field. I would much rather have a type alias:

    /// Zero-sized type to mark types not [`Send`].
    ///
    /// Add this type as a field to your struct if your type should not be sent to a different task.
    /// Since [`Send`] is an auto trait, adding a single field that is [`!Send`] will ensure that the
    /// whole type is [`!Send`].
    ///
    /// If a type is [`!Send`] it is impossible to give control over an instance of the type to another
    /// task. This is useful when a type stores task-local information for example file descriptors.
    pub type NotSend = PhantomData<*mut ()>;

If you have suggestions for improving the doc comment or the name,
please go ahead.

This doesn't mean that there should be no comment on the `NotSend`
field of `FileDescriptorReservation`, but I don't want to repeat
the `Send` stuff all over the place (since it comes up a lot):

    /// Ensure that `FileDescriptorReservation` cannot be sent to a different task, since there the
    /// value of `current` is different. We want to avoid that because `fd_install` assumes that the
    /// value of `current` is unchanged since the call to `get_unused_fd_flags`.
    _not_send: NotSend,

-- 
Cheers,
Benno

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-29 12:51 [PATCH 0/7] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 12:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 15:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-29 15:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-29 17:08       ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-30 10:42         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 15:25           ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01  8:53             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01  9:19               ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01  9:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 10:36                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 11:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01  9:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01  9:52               ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-29 16:42     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 15:02     ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 17:06   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 21:27     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 23:17       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 10:48       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 12:10         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 12:36           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 14:53   ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 14:59     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-30 15:46       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 15:56         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-30 15:58         ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-30 16:12           ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01  1:16             ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-01 12:11             ` David Laight
2023-12-01 12:27               ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-01 15:04                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-01 15:14                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 17:25                     ` David Laight
2023-12-01 17:37                       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 12:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] rust: cred: add Rust abstraction for `struct cred` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 16:17   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01  9:06     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-01 10:27       ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-04 15:42         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:11 ` [PATCH 3/7] rust: security: add abstraction for secctx Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 16:26   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 10:48     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-02 10:03       ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 13:11 ` [PATCH 4/7] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:14   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:55     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 17:14       ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30  9:12         ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30  9:23           ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30  9:09       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30  9:17         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 10:51           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 11:54             ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 12:17               ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2023-11-30 12:33                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 16:40   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:32     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 5/7] rust: file: add `Kuid` wrapper Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:28   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 12:46       ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-06 19:59         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 16:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-08 19:58             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08  5:28         ` comex
2023-12-08 16:19           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-08 17:08             ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-12-08 17:37               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-08 17:43               ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-08 20:43               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-09  7:24             ` comex
2023-11-30  9:36     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 10:52       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 10:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-06 20:02     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-07  7:18       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-07  7:46         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-11-30 16:48   ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 6/7] rust: file: add `DeferredFdCloser` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 17:12   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:35     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-02 10:16       ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-05 14:43         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-05 18:16           ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 7/7] rust: file: add abstraction for `poll_table` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 17:42   ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:47     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 22:39   ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 11:50     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 22:50   ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-29 16:31 ` [PATCH 0/7] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:48   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-06 20:05   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 16:59     ` Miguel Ojeda

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