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From: Reto Brunner <brunnre8@gmail.com>
To: wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com
Subject: Re: WG: Need for HW-clock independent timestamps
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 14:35:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180521123558.qemdunuwgr4u7gsj@ghostArch.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97874cad-ac60-5a88-a384-f036f9688668@cgws.de>

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 01:52:34PM +0200, Axel Neumann wrote:
> yes, can be an option, but would only work in "normal" soft-shut-down
> cases, not in case of a hard reset or power cycle. A not-so-uncommon
> scenario for embedded home-network devices and community-network
> deployments. Especially when considering the first choice of a  normal
> user (desperately trying to fix its internet-via-WG tunnel connection):
> Power cycle the device.
But the same issue would be occurring if you used a counter instead.
At one point you *have* to write a checkpoint somewhere.

If you just want a single write cycle, then you loose the ability to graceful
handle unexpected shutdowns.

Even if you increment the counter by 10'000 when restoring it, who's to
say the device hasn't been running for several weeks before the
unexpected power cycle happened?
Even the +10'000 counter would then already be way smaller than the
*actual* counter from the servers perspective.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-21 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-11 22:07 WG: Need for HW-clock independent timestamps Axel Neumann
2018-05-11 22:45 ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2018-05-12  0:05   ` Glen Bojsza
2018-05-12 19:29   ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-12 19:41     ` Aaron Jones
2018-05-15 20:21       ` Devan Carpenter
2018-05-15 20:49         ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2018-05-16  7:10           ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-16 19:32           ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-16 20:32             ` Steve Gilberd
2018-05-17  3:40               ` Paul
2018-05-17  5:03                 ` Roman Mamedov
2018-05-17  5:53                   ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-17  7:07                     ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-17  8:28                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-16 20:35             ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2018-05-12 22:10     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-12 23:05     ` Reuben Martin
2018-05-13  6:11     ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-13 12:37       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-16  7:01         ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-16  9:38           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-16 11:08             ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-16 11:12             ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-13 14:21   ` Wang Jian
2018-05-21 10:07 ` WG: " Axel Neumann
2018-05-21 11:22   ` Reto Brunner
2018-05-21 11:52     ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-21 12:31       ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-21 12:35       ` Reto Brunner [this message]
2018-05-21 13:53         ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-21 14:56           ` Bruno Wolff III
2018-05-21 15:34             ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-22 20:25               ` Ivan Labáth
2018-05-23  2:51                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2019-02-04 14:56                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-02-23  4:00                   ` Axel Neumann
2019-02-23 12:35                     ` Ivan Labáth
     [not found] <1522499692.6109802.1526903933505.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-05-21 11:58 ` reiner otto

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