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From: Axel Neumann <neumann@cgws.de>
To: wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com,Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de>
Subject: Re: Need for HW-clock independent timestamps
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 09:07:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AA544EA9-A23B-4F49-A468-617F5DF2B035@cgws.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <748e7dbf-0238-6c81-ab18-83d6174405fe@urlichs.de>



Am 17=2E Mai 2018 07:53:17 MESZ schrieb Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs=
=2Ede>:
>On 17=2E05=2E2018 07:03, Roman Mamedov wrote:
>> Personally I am puzzled this is even an issue in WG=2E Not a single
>other VPN
>> protocol mandates every node to keep a monotonically increasing
>counter,
>> including even over reboots=2E
>
>Wireguard's connection setup is a whole lot simpler than most other

But only if you ignore the implications coming with NTP transmissions=2E
its like Outsourcing some state transfer to another service and then claim=
 that remaining procedures are most simple=2E=20
/axel

>protocols=2E It basically doesn't require a "real" handshake, just a
>request/reply pair=2E Thus it's vulnerable against disruption by replay
>attacks =E2=80=93 a replayed rekey packet would disrupt conversation unti=
l the
>real sender times out, a minute later=2E
>
>--=20
>-- Matthias Urlichs
>
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--=20
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Ger=C3=A4t mit K-9 Mail gesendet=
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-17  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-11 22:07 WG: Need for HW-clock independent timestamps Axel Neumann
2018-05-11 22:45 ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2018-05-12  0:05   ` Glen Bojsza
2018-05-12 19:29   ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-12 19:41     ` Aaron Jones
2018-05-15 20:21       ` Devan Carpenter
2018-05-15 20:49         ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2018-05-16  7:10           ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-16 19:32           ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-16 20:32             ` Steve Gilberd
2018-05-17  3:40               ` Paul
2018-05-17  5:03                 ` Roman Mamedov
2018-05-17  5:53                   ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-17  7:07                     ` Axel Neumann [this message]
2018-05-17  8:28                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-16 20:35             ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2018-05-12 22:10     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-12 23:05     ` Reuben Martin
2018-05-13  6:11     ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-13 12:37       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-16  7:01         ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-16  9:38           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-16 11:08             ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-16 11:12             ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-13 14:21   ` Wang Jian
2018-05-21 10:07 ` WG: " Axel Neumann
2018-05-21 11:22   ` Reto Brunner
2018-05-21 11:52     ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-21 12:31       ` Axel Neumann
2018-05-21 12:35       ` Reto Brunner
2018-05-21 13:53         ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-21 14:56           ` Bruno Wolff III
2018-05-21 15:34             ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-05-22 20:25               ` Ivan Labáth
2018-05-23  2:51                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2019-02-04 14:56                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-02-23  4:00                   ` Axel Neumann
2019-02-23 12:35                     ` Ivan Labáth
     [not found] <1324673763.992877.1526187430298.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-05-13  4:57 ` reiner otto
2018-05-13 12:35   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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