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From: "Michał Leszczyński" <michal.leszczynski@cert.pl>
To: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
Cc: "Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"tamas lengyel" <tamas.lengyel@intel.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>, "Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Ian Jackson" <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	"Jun Nakajima" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"luwei kang" <luwei.kang@intel.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/10] x86/vmx: add IPT cpu feature
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:28:28 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <187614050.18497785.1593721708078.JavaMail.zimbra@cert.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dadeeedd-a9e1-d5f4-4754-8da3f065fd44@xen.org>

----- 2 lip 2020 o 16:31, Julien Grall julien@xen.org napisał(a):

> On 02/07/2020 15:17, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 02.07.2020 16:14, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> On 02/07/2020 14:30, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 02.07.2020 11:57, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>> On 02/07/2020 10:18, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 02.07.2020 10:54, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02/07/2020 09:50, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 02.07.2020 10:42, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 02/07/2020 09:29, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> Another way to do it, would be the toolstack to do the mapping. At which
>>>>> point, you still need an hypercall to do the mapping (probably the
>>>>> hypercall acquire).
>>>>
>>>> There may not be any mapping to do in such a contrived, fixed-range
>>>> environment. This scenario was specifically to demonstrate that the
>>>> way the mapping gets done may be arch-specific (here: a no-op)
>>>> despite the allocation not being so.
>>> You are arguing on extreme cases which I don't think is really helpful
>>> here. Yes if you want to map at a fixed address in a guest you may not
>>> need the acquire hypercall. But in most of the other cases (see has for
>>> the tools) you will need it.
>>>
>>> So what's the problem with requesting to have the acquire hypercall
>>> implemented in common code?
>> 
>> Didn't we start out by you asking that there be as little common code
>> as possible for the time being?
> 
> Well as I said I am not in favor of having the allocation in common
> code, but if you want to keep it then you also want to implement
> map/unmap in the common code ([1], [2]).
> 
>> I have no issue with putting the
>> acquire implementation there ...
> This was definitely not clear given how you argued with extreme cases...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> [1] <9a3f4d58-e5ad-c7a1-6c5f-42aa92101ca1@xen.org>
> [2] <cf41855b-9e5e-13f2-9ab0-04b98f8b3cdd@xen.org>
> 
> --
> Julien Grall


Guys,

could you express your final decision on this topic?

While I understand the discussion and the arguments you've raised,
I would like to know what particular elements should be moved where.

So are we going abstract way, or non-abstract-x86 only way?

Best regards,
Michał Leszczyński
CERT Polska


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-02 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-30 12:33 [PATCH v4 00/10] Implement support for external IPT monitoring Michał Leszczyński
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] x86/vmx: add Intel PT MSR definitions Michał Leszczyński
2020-06-30 16:23   ` Jan Beulich
2020-06-30 17:37   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-06-30 18:03     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-06-30 18:27       ` Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 17:52   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] x86/vmx: add IPT cpu feature Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01  9:49   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-01 15:12   ` Julien Grall
2020-07-01 16:06     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-01 16:17       ` Julien Grall
2020-07-01 16:18         ` Julien Grall
2020-07-01 17:26           ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-01 18:02             ` Julien Grall
2020-07-01 18:06               ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-01 18:09                 ` Julien Grall
2020-07-02  8:29                   ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-02  8:42                     ` Julien Grall
2020-07-02  8:50                       ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-02  8:54                         ` Julien Grall
2020-07-02  9:18                           ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-02  9:57                             ` Julien Grall
2020-07-02 13:30                               ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-02 14:14                                 ` Julien Grall
2020-07-02 14:17                                   ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-02 14:31                                     ` Julien Grall
2020-07-02 20:28                                       ` Michał Leszczyński [this message]
2020-07-03  7:58                                         ` Julien Grall
2020-07-04 19:16                                           ` Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 21:42   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-02  8:10     ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-02  8:34       ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-02 20:29         ` Michał Leszczyński
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] tools/libxl: add vmtrace_pt_size parameter Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 10:05   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-02  9:00   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-02 16:23     ` Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-03  9:44       ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-03  9:56         ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-03 10:11           ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-04 17:23             ` Julien Grall
2020-07-06  8:46               ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-07  8:44                 ` Julien Grall
2020-07-07  9:10                   ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-07  9:16                     ` Julien Grall
2020-07-07 11:17                       ` Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-07 11:21                         ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-07 11:35                           ` Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-02 10:24   ` Anthony PERARD
2020-07-04 17:48   ` Julien Grall
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] x86/vmx: implement processor tracing for VMX Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 10:30   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] common/domain: allocate vmtrace_pt_buffer Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 10:38   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-01 15:35   ` Julien Grall
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] memory: batch processing in acquire_resource() Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 10:46   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-03 10:35   ` Julien Grall
2020-07-03 10:52     ` Paul Durrant
2020-07-03 11:17       ` Julien Grall
2020-07-03 11:22         ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-03 11:36           ` Julien Grall
2020-07-03 12:50             ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-03 11:40         ` Paul Durrant
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] x86/mm: add vmtrace_buf resource type Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 10:52   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] x86/domctl: add XEN_DOMCTL_vmtrace_op Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-01 11:00   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] tools/libxc: add xc_vmtrace_* functions Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-21 10:52   ` Wei Liu
2020-06-30 12:33 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] tools/proctrace: add proctrace tool Michał Leszczyński
2020-07-02 15:10   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-21 10:52     ` Wei Liu
2020-06-30 12:48 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Implement support for external IPT monitoring Hubert Jasudowicz

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