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From: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
To: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: "'Kevin Tian'" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"'Jun Nakajima'" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"'Wei Liu'" <wl@xen.org>,
	paul@xen.org, "'Andrew Cooper'" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"'Ian Jackson'" <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"'George Dunlap'" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	"'Tim Deegan'" <tim@xen.org>, Oleksandr <olekstysh@gmail.com>,
	"'Oleksandr Tyshchenko'" <oleksandr_tyshchenko@epam.com>,
	"'Julien Grall'" <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	"'Jan Beulich'" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"'Roger Pau Monné'" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V1 01/12] hvm/ioreq: Make x86's IOREQ feature common
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:45:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1afb9ffd-088c-ef4e-131a-0f2b62142405@xen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2008051121580.5748@sstabellini-ThinkPad-T480s>

Hi,

On 06/08/2020 01:37, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Julien Grall wrote:
>> On 04/08/2020 20:11, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>> On 04/08/2020 12:10, Oleksandr wrote:
>>>>> On 04.08.20 10:45, Paul Durrant wrote:
>>>>>>> +static inline bool hvm_ioreq_needs_completion(const ioreq_t *ioreq)
>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>> +    return ioreq->state == STATE_IOREQ_READY &&
>>>>>>> +           !ioreq->data_is_ptr &&
>>>>>>> +           (ioreq->type != IOREQ_TYPE_PIO || ioreq->dir !=
>>>>>>> IOREQ_WRITE);
>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> I don't think having this in common code is correct. The short-cut of
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> completing PIO reads seems somewhat x86 specific.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, looking at the code, I think it doesn't wait for PIO writes to
>>>> complete
>>>> (not read). Did I miss anything?
>>>>
>>>>> Does ARM even
>>>>>> have the concept of PIO?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not 100% sure here, but it seems that doesn't have.
>>>>
>>>> Technically, the PIOs exist on Arm, however they are accessed the same way
>>>> as
>>>> MMIO and will have a dedicated area defined by the HW.
>>>>
>>>> AFAICT, on Arm64, they are only used for PCI IO Bar.
>>>>
>>>> Now the question is whether we want to expose them to the Device Emulator
>>>> as
>>>> PIO or MMIO access. From a generic PoV, a DM shouldn't have to care about
>>>> the
>>>> architecture used. It should just be able to request a given IOport
>>>> region.
>>>>
>>>> So it may make sense to differentiate them in the common ioreq code as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> I had a quick look at QEMU and wasn't able to tell if PIOs and MMIOs
>>>> address
>>>> space are different on Arm as well. Paul, Stefano, do you know what they
>>>> are
>>>> doing?
>>>
>>> On the QEMU side, it looks like PIO (address_space_io) is used in
>>> connection with the emulation of the "in" or "out" instructions, see
>>> ioport.c:cpu_inb for instance. Some parts of PCI on QEMU emulate PIO
>>> space regardless of the architecture, such as
>>> hw/pci/pci_bridge.c:pci_bridge_initfn.
>>>
>>> However, because there is no "in" and "out" on ARM, I don't think
>>> address_space_io can be accessed. Specifically, there is no equivalent
>>> for target/i386/misc_helper.c:helper_inb on ARM.
>>
>> So how PCI I/O BAR are accessed? Surely, they could be used on Arm, right?
> 
> PIO is also memory mapped on ARM and it seems to have its own MMIO
> address window.
This part is already well-understood :). However, this only tell us how 
an OS is accessing a PIO.

What I am trying to figure out is how the hardware (or QEMU) is meant to 
work.

 From my understanding, the MMIO access will be received by the 
hostbridge and then forwarded to the appropriate PCI device. The two 
questions I am trying to answer is: How the I/O BARs are configured? 
Will it contain an MMIO address or an offset?

If the answer is the latter, then we will need PIO because a DM will 
never see the MMIO address (the hostbridge will be emulated in Xen).

I am still trying to navigate through the code and didn't manage to find 
an answer so far.

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-06 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-03 18:21 [RFC PATCH V1 00/12] IOREQ feature (+ virtio-mmio) on Arm Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 01/12] hvm/ioreq: Make x86's IOREQ feature common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-04  7:45   ` Paul Durrant
2020-08-04 11:10     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-04 11:23       ` Paul Durrant
2020-08-04 11:51         ` Oleksandr
2020-08-04 13:18           ` Paul Durrant
2020-08-04 13:52       ` Julien Grall
2020-08-04 15:41         ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-04 19:11         ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05  7:01           ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-06  0:37             ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-06  6:59               ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-06 20:32                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-07 13:19                   ` Oleksandr
2020-08-07 16:45               ` Oleksandr
2020-08-07 21:50                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-07 22:19                   ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 13:41                     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 23:34                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-11  9:19                         ` Julien Grall
2020-08-11 10:10                           ` Oleksandr
2020-08-11 22:47                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-12 14:35                               ` Oleksandr
2020-08-12 23:08                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-13 20:16                                   ` Julien Grall
2020-08-07 23:45                   ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 23:34                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05  8:33           ` Julien Grall
2020-08-06  0:37             ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-06  9:45               ` Julien Grall [this message]
2020-08-06 23:48                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-10 19:20                   ` Julien Grall
2020-08-10 23:34                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-11 11:28                       ` Julien Grall
2020-08-11 22:48                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-12  8:19                           ` Julien Grall
2020-08-20 19:14                             ` Oleksandr
2020-08-21  0:53                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-21 18:54                                 ` Julien Grall
2020-08-05 13:30   ` Julien Grall
2020-08-06 11:37     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 16:29       ` Julien Grall
2020-08-10 17:28         ` Oleksandr
2020-08-05 16:15   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-08-06  8:20     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-15 17:30   ` Julien Grall
2020-08-16 19:37     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 02/12] hvm/dm: Make x86's DM " Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 03/12] xen/mm: Make x86's XENMEM_resource_ioreq_server handling common Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 04/12] xen/arm: Introduce arch specific bits for IOREQ/DM features Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-04  7:49   ` Paul Durrant
2020-08-04 14:01     ` Julien Grall
2020-08-04 23:22       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-15 17:56       ` Julien Grall
2020-08-17 14:36         ` Oleksandr
2020-08-04 23:22   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05  7:05     ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-05 16:41       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05 19:45         ` Oleksandr
2020-08-05  9:32     ` Julien Grall
2020-08-05 15:41       ` Oleksandr
2020-08-06 10:19         ` Julien Grall
2020-08-10 18:09       ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 18:21         ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 19:00         ` Julien Grall
2020-08-10 20:29           ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 22:37             ` Julien Grall
2020-08-11  6:13               ` Oleksandr
2020-08-12 15:08                 ` Oleksandr
2020-08-11 17:09       ` Oleksandr
2020-08-11 17:50         ` Julien Grall
2020-08-13 18:41           ` Oleksandr
2020-08-13 20:36             ` Julien Grall
2020-08-13 21:49               ` Oleksandr
2020-08-13 20:39             ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-13 22:14               ` Julien Grall
2020-08-14 12:08                 ` Oleksandr
2020-08-05 14:12   ` Julien Grall
2020-08-05 14:45     ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-05 19:30     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-06 11:08       ` Julien Grall
2020-08-06 11:29         ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-20 18:30           ` Oleksandr
2020-08-21  6:16             ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-21 11:13               ` Oleksandr
2020-08-06 13:27         ` Oleksandr
2020-08-10 18:25           ` Julien Grall
2020-08-10 19:58             ` Oleksandr
2020-08-05 16:13   ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-05 19:47     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 05/12] hvm/dm: Introduce xendevicemodel_set_irq_level DM op Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-04 23:22   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05  9:39     ` Julien Grall
2020-08-06  0:37       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-06 11:32         ` Julien Grall
2020-08-06 23:49           ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-07  8:43             ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-07 21:50               ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-08  9:27                 ` Julien Grall
2020-08-08  9:28                   ` Julien Grall
2020-08-10 23:34                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-11 13:04                     ` Julien Grall
2020-08-11 22:48                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-18  9:31                         ` Julien Grall
2020-08-21  0:53                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-17 15:23                 ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-17 22:56                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-18  8:03                     ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-05 16:15   ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-05 22:12     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 06/12] libxl: Introduce basic virtio-mmio support on Arm Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 07/12] A collection of tweaks to be able to run emulator in driver domain Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-05 16:19   ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-05 16:40     ` Paul Durrant
2020-08-06  9:22       ` Oleksandr
2020-08-06  9:27         ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-14 16:30           ` Oleksandr
2020-08-16 15:36             ` Julien Grall
2020-08-17 15:07               ` Oleksandr
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 08/12] xen/arm: Invalidate qemu mapcache on XENMEM_decrease_reservation Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-05 16:21   ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-06 11:35     ` Julien Grall
2020-08-06 11:50       ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-06 14:28         ` Oleksandr
2020-08-06 16:33           ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-06 16:57             ` Oleksandr
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 09/12] libxl: Handle virtio-mmio irq in more correct way Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-04 23:22   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05 20:51     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 10/12] libxl: Add support for virtio-disk configuration Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-04 23:23   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05 21:12     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-06  0:37       ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 11/12] libxl: Insert "dma-coherent" property into virtio-mmio device node Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-04 23:23   ` Stefano Stabellini
2020-08-05 20:35     ` Oleksandr
2020-08-03 18:21 ` [RFC PATCH V1 12/12] libxl: Fix duplicate memory node in DT Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2020-08-15 17:24 ` [RFC PATCH V1 00/12] IOREQ feature (+ virtio-mmio) on Arm Julien Grall
2020-08-16 19:34   ` Oleksandr

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