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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <iwj@xenproject.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Tamas K Lengyel <lengyelt@ainfosec.com>,
	Petre Ovidiu PIRCALABU <ppircalabu@bitdefender.com>,
	Alexandru Isaila <aisaila@bitdefender.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] evtchn: don't call Xen consumer callback with per-channel lock held
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:48:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <269f9a2d-7a8d-cba2-801f-6d3b12f9455f@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a8250f5-ea49-ac3a-e992-be7ec40deba9@xen.org>

On 04.12.2020 12:28, Julien Grall wrote:
> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 03/12/2020 10:09, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 02.12.2020 22:10, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2020 13:30, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> While there don't look to be any problems with this right now, the lock
>>>> order implications from holding the lock can be very difficult to follow
>>>> (and may be easy to violate unknowingly). The present callbacks don't
>>>> (and no such callback should) have any need for the lock to be held.
>>>>
>>>> However, vm_event_disable() frees the structures used by respective
>>>> callbacks and isn't otherwise synchronized with invocations of these
>>>> callbacks, so maintain a count of in-progress calls, for evtchn_close()
>>>> to wait to drop to zero before freeing the port (and dropping the lock).
>>>
>>> AFAICT, this callback is not the only place where the synchronization is
>>> missing in the VM event code.
>>>
>>> For instance, vm_event_put_request() can also race against
>>> vm_event_disable().
>>>
>>> So shouldn't we handle this issue properly in VM event?
>>
>> I suppose that's a question to the VM event folks rather than me?
> 
> Yes. From my understanding of Tamas's e-mail, they are relying on the 
> monitoring software to do the right thing.
> 
> I will refrain to comment on this approach. However, given the race is 
> much wider than the event channel, I would recommend to not add more 
> code in the event channel to deal with such problem.
> 
> Instead, this should be fixed in the VM event code when someone has time 
> to harden the subsystem.

Are effectively saying I should now undo the addition of the
refcounting, which was added in response to feedback from you?
Or else what exactly am I to take from your reply?

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-04 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-23 13:26 [PATCH v3 0/5] evtchn: (not so) recent XSAs follow-on Jan Beulich
2020-11-23 13:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] evtchn: drop acquiring of per-channel lock from send_guest_{global,vcpu}_virq() Jan Beulich
2020-12-02 19:03   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-03  9:46     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-09  9:53       ` Julien Grall
2020-12-09 14:24         ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-23 13:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] evtchn: avoid access tearing for ->virq_to_evtchn[] accesses Jan Beulich
2020-12-02 21:14   ` Julien Grall
2020-11-23 13:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] evtchn: convert vIRQ lock to an r/w one Jan Beulich
2020-12-09 11:16   ` Julien Grall
2020-11-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] evtchn: convert domain event " Jan Beulich
2020-12-09 11:54   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-11 10:32     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-11 10:57       ` Julien Grall
2020-12-14  9:40         ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-21 17:45           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-22  9:46             ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 11:22               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 12:57                 ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 13:19                   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 13:36                     ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-23 13:30 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] evtchn: don't call Xen consumer callback with per-channel lock held Jan Beulich
2020-11-30 10:39   ` Isaila Alexandru
2020-12-02 21:10   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-03 10:09     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-03 14:40       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-04 11:28       ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 11:48         ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2020-12-04 11:51           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 12:01             ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-04 15:09               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-07  8:02                 ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-07 17:22                   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 15:21         ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-04 15:29           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 19:15             ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-04 19:22               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 21:23                 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-07 15:28               ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-07 17:30                 ` Julien Grall
2020-12-07 17:35                   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-23 13:12                     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 13:33                       ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 13:41                         ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 14:44                           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 14:56                             ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 15:08                               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 15:15                             ` Tamas K Lengyel

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