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From: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <iwj@xenproject.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] evtchn: drop acquiring of per-channel lock from send_guest_{global,vcpu}_virq()
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 09:53:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f14d147b-b218-a2ab-0b9e-06ece58d58e4@xen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c15b1e7e-ed9c-b597-2fc1-b8cf89999c55@suse.com>

Hi Jan,

On 03/12/2020 09:46, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 02.12.2020 20:03, Julien Grall wrote:
>> On 23/11/2020 13:28, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> The per-vCPU virq_lock, which is being held anyway, together with there
>>> not being any call to evtchn_port_set_pending() when v->virq_to_evtchn[]
>>> is zero, provide sufficient guarantees.
>>
>> I agree that the per-vCPU virq_lock is going to be sufficient, however
>> dropping the lock also means the event channel locking is more complex
>> to understand (the long comment that was added proves it).
>>
>> In fact, the locking in the event channel code was already proven to be
>> quite fragile, therefore I think this patch is not worth the risk.
> 
> I agree this is a very reasonable position to take. I probably
> would even have remained silent if in the meantime the
> spin_lock()s there hadn't changed to read_trylock()s. I really
> think we want to limit this unusual locking model to where we
> strictly need it.

While I appreciate that the current locking is unusual, we should follow 
the same model everywhere rather than having a dozen of way to lock the 
same structure.

The rationale is quite simple, if you have one way to lock a structure, 
then there are less chance to screw up.

The only reason I would be willing to diverge from statement is if the 
performance are significantly improved.

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-09  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-23 13:26 [PATCH v3 0/5] evtchn: (not so) recent XSAs follow-on Jan Beulich
2020-11-23 13:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] evtchn: drop acquiring of per-channel lock from send_guest_{global,vcpu}_virq() Jan Beulich
2020-12-02 19:03   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-03  9:46     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-09  9:53       ` Julien Grall [this message]
2020-12-09 14:24         ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-23 13:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] evtchn: avoid access tearing for ->virq_to_evtchn[] accesses Jan Beulich
2020-12-02 21:14   ` Julien Grall
2020-11-23 13:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] evtchn: convert vIRQ lock to an r/w one Jan Beulich
2020-12-09 11:16   ` Julien Grall
2020-11-23 13:29 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] evtchn: convert domain event " Jan Beulich
2020-12-09 11:54   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-11 10:32     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-11 10:57       ` Julien Grall
2020-12-14  9:40         ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-21 17:45           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-22  9:46             ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 11:22               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 12:57                 ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 13:19                   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 13:36                     ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-23 13:30 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] evtchn: don't call Xen consumer callback with per-channel lock held Jan Beulich
2020-11-30 10:39   ` Isaila Alexandru
2020-12-02 21:10   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-03 10:09     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-03 14:40       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-04 11:28       ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 11:48         ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-04 11:51           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 12:01             ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-04 15:09               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-07  8:02                 ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-07 17:22                   ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 15:21         ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-04 15:29           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 19:15             ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-04 19:22               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-04 21:23                 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-07 15:28               ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-07 17:30                 ` Julien Grall
2020-12-07 17:35                   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2020-12-23 13:12                     ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 13:33                       ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 13:41                         ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 14:44                           ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 14:56                             ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-23 15:08                               ` Julien Grall
2020-12-23 15:15                             ` Tamas K Lengyel

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