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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Cc: ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, wei.liu2@citrix.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools: fix xen-detect to correctly identify domU type
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:19:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56F25FB3.7000008@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56F26B7C02000078000DF896@suse.com>

On 23/03/16 10:10, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 23.03.16 at 08:50, <JGross@suse.com> wrote:
>> xen-detect always thinks a domU is running as HVM guest as the cpuid
>> instruction used to identify a Xen guest will always work.
>>
>> In order to identify a pv guest first try the pv special case of
>> cpuid (prefixed with an ud2a instruction and "xen" in ASCII). This
>> will fail on HVM and thus can be used to distinguish the guest types.
> 
> I don't think that's something to be relied upon, or even true
> universally (see hvm_ud_intercept()). With CPUID faulting in mind
> I can't see a purely CPUID based mechanism that would reliably
> allow to tell one from the other as well as from PVH/PVHv2. There
> is one feature flag specifically getting set for PV domains only
> (XEN_CPUID_FEAT1_MMU_PT_UPDATE_PRESERVE_AD), but that
> won't be available on older hypervisors afaict.

So this would mean we have the following options:

a) nuke xen-detect completely, as it is unreliable
b) do the modification I've suggested, being better than the current
   version
c) modify it to ask the OS (is there an interface available we can
   use?)

Thoughts?


Juergen


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-23  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-23  7:50 [PATCH] tools: fix xen-detect to correctly identify domU type Juergen Gross
2016-03-23  9:10 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found] ` <56F26B7C02000078000DF896@suse.com>
2016-03-23  9:19   ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2016-03-23  9:29     ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]     ` <56F26FF602000078000DF8C8@suse.com>
2016-03-23 10:14       ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-23 10:25         ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-23 10:32           ` David Vrabel
2016-03-23 10:52             ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-23 10:55               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 10:59                 ` David Vrabel
2016-03-23 11:12                   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 11:18                     ` David Vrabel
2016-03-23 11:25                       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 19:03                         ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-24 10:22                           ` David Vrabel
2016-03-24 10:58                             ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-24 11:23                               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 11:38                                 ` George Dunlap
2016-03-25  8:54                                   ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-29  6:49                                     ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-29 13:54                                     ` George Dunlap
2016-03-29 14:00                                       ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-29 14:05                                         ` George Dunlap
2016-03-23 11:33                 ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-23 12:50                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-03-23 10:34           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-23 10:48             ` Juergen Gross
2016-03-23 10:29         ` Andrew Cooper

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