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From: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Julien Grall <julien.grall.oss@gmail.com>,
	 Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Chen <Wei.Chen@arm.com>,
	 xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	 Bertrand Marquis <Bertrand.Marquis@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 36/37] xen/arm: Provide Kconfig options for Arm to enable NUMA
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2109271006480.5022@sstabellini-ThinkPad-T480s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42eb1303-1b45-5489-eac3-855f4ab35eb5@suse.com>

On Mon, 27 Sep 2021, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 27.09.2021 10:45, Julien Grall wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021, 10:33 Jan Beulich, <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 24.09.2021 21:39, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 24 Sep 2021, Wei Chen wrote:
> >>>> On 2021/9/24 11:31, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2021, Wei Chen wrote:
> >>>>>> --- a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig
> >>>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig
> >>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,17 @@ config ACPI
> >>>>>>      Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) support for
> >> Xen is
> >>>>>>      an alternative to device tree on ARM64.
> >>>>>>   + config DEVICE_TREE_NUMA
> >>>>>> +  def_bool n
> >>>>>> +  select NUMA
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +config ARM_NUMA
> >>>>>> +  bool "Arm NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Access) Support (UNSUPPORTED)"
> >> if
> >>>>>> UNSUPPORTED
> >>>>>> +  select DEVICE_TREE_NUMA if HAS_DEVICE_TREE
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Should it be: depends on HAS_DEVICE_TREE ?
> >>>>> (And eventually depends on HAS_DEVICE_TREE || ACPI)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As the discussion in RFC [1]. We want to make ARM_NUMA as a generic
> >>>> option can be selected by users. And depends on has_device_tree
> >>>> or ACPI to select DEVICE_TREE_NUMA or ACPI_NUMA.
> >>>>
> >>>> If we add HAS_DEVICE_TREE || ACPI as dependencies for ARM_NUMA,
> >>>> does it become a loop dependency?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2021-08/msg00888.html
> >>>
> >>> OK, I am fine with that. I was just trying to catch the case where a
> >>> user selects "ARM_NUMA" but actually neither ACPI nor HAS_DEVICE_TREE
> >>> are selected so nothing happens. I was trying to make it clear that
> >>> ARM_NUMA depends on having at least one between HAS_DEVICE_TREE or ACPI
> >>> because otherwise it is not going to work.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I don't think this is important because HAS_DEVICE_TREE
> >>> cannot be unselected. So if we cannot find a way to express the
> >>> dependency, I think it is fine to keep the patch as is.
> >>
> >> So how about doing things the other way around: ARM_NUMA has no prompt
> >> and defaults to ACPI_NUMA || DT_NUMA, and DT_NUMA gains a prompt instead
> >> (and, for Arm at least, ACPI_NUMA as well; this might even be worthwhile
> >> to have on x86 down the road).
> >>
> > 
> > As I wrote before, I don't think the user should say "I want to enable NUMA
> > with Device-Tree or ACPI". Instead, they say whether they want to use NUMA
> > and let Xen decide to enable the DT/ACPI support.
> > 
> > In other word, the prompt should stay on ARM_NUMA.
> 
> Okay. In which case I'm confused by Stefano's question.

Let me clarify: I think it is fine to have a single prompt for NUMA in
Kconfig. However, I am just pointing out that it is theoretically
possible with the current code to present an ARM_NUMA prompt to the user
but actually have no NUMA enabled at the end because both DEVICE TREE
and ACPI are disabled. This is only a theoretical problem because DEVICE
TREE support (HAS_DEVICE_TREE) cannot be disabled today. Also I cannot
imagine how a configuration with neither DEVICE TREE nor ACPI can be
correct. So I don't think it is a critical concern.

That said, you can see that, at least theoretically, ARM_NUMA depends on
either HAS_DEVICE_TREE or ACPI, so I suggested to add:

depends on HAS_DEVICE_TREE || ACPI

Wei answered that it might introduce a circular dependency, but I did
try the addition of "depends on HAS_DEVICE_TREE || ACPI" under ARM_NUMA
in Kconfig and everything built fine here.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-27 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-23 12:01 [PATCH 00/37] Add device tree based NUMA support to Arm Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 01/37] xen/arm: Print a 64-bit number in hex from early uart Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 02/37] xen: introduce a Kconfig option to configure NUMA nodes number Wei Chen
2021-09-23 23:45   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  1:24     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24  8:55   ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-24 10:33     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24 10:47       ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 03/37] xen/x86: Initialize memnodemapsize while faking NUMA node Wei Chen
2021-09-24  8:57   ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-24 10:34     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 04/37] xen: introduce an arch helper for default dma zone status Wei Chen
2021-09-23 23:55   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  1:50     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-17 16:10   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-18  7:51     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-18  8:16       ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-18  9:20         ` Wei Chen
2022-01-18 14:16           ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-19  2:49             ` Wei Chen
2022-01-19  7:50               ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-19  8:33                 ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 05/37] xen: decouple NUMA from ACPI in Kconfig Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 06/37] xen/arm: use !CONFIG_NUMA to keep fake NUMA API Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:05   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24 10:21     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 07/37] xen/x86: use paddr_t for addresses in NUMA node structure Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:11   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  0:13     ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  3:00       ` Wei Chen
2022-01-18 15:22   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-19  6:33     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-19  7:55       ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-19  8:36         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 08/37] xen/x86: add detection of discontinous node memory range Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:25   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:28     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24 19:52       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-26 10:11         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27  3:13           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-27  5:05             ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-27  9:50               ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27 17:19                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-28  4:41                   ` Wei Chen
2021-09-28  4:59                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-18 16:13   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-19  7:33     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-19  8:01       ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-19  8:24         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 09/37] xen/x86: introduce two helpers to access memory hotplug end Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:29   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:21     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-24 16:24   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-26  7:53     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 10/37] xen/x86: use helpers to access/update mem_hotplug Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:31   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:29     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-24 16:29   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-26  7:58     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 11/37] xen/x86: abstract neutral code from acpi_numa_memory_affinity_init Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:38   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-24 16:50   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-26 10:39     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 12/37] xen/x86: decouple nodes_cover_memory from E820 map Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:39   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-24 16:59   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:03     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-27  8:08       ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  9:03         ` Wei Chen
2022-01-27  9:22           ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  9:27             ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 13/37] xen/x86: decouple processor_nodes_parsed from acpi numa functions Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:40   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-25  9:49   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:06     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 14/37] xen/x86: use name fw_numa to replace acpi_numa Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:40   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-25 10:12   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:09     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 15/37] xen/x86: rename acpi_scan_nodes to numa_scan_nodes Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:40   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-25 10:17   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:14     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 16/37] xen/x86: export srat_bad to external Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:41   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-25 10:22   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:35     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-27  8:37       ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:47         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 17/37] xen/x86: use CONFIG_NUMA to gate numa_scan_nodes Wei Chen
2021-09-24  0:41   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-25 10:26   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:37     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 18/37] xen: move NUMA common code from x86 to common Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 19/37] xen/x86: promote VIRTUAL_BUG_ON to ASSERT in Wei Chen
2022-01-17 16:21   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-18  7:52     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 20/37] xen: introduce CONFIG_EFI to stub API for non-EFI architecture Wei Chen
2021-09-24  1:15   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:34     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24  7:58       ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-24 10:31         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24 10:49           ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-26 10:25             ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27 10:28               ` Wei Chen
2021-09-28  0:59                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-28  4:16                   ` Wei Chen
2021-09-28  5:01                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-28  8:02                       ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-03 23:28                         ` Wei Chen
2022-01-25 10:34   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:44     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-27  8:51       ` Wei Chen
2022-01-27  9:00         ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  9:09           ` Wei Chen
2022-01-27  9:16             ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  9:25               ` Wei Chen
2022-01-27  9:27                 ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27 10:00                   ` Julien Grall
2022-01-28  4:35                     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 21/37] xen/arm: Keep memory nodes in dtb for NUMA when boot from EFI Wei Chen
2021-09-24  1:23   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:36     ` Wei Chen
2022-01-25 10:38   ` Jan Beulich
2022-01-27  8:45     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 22/37] xen/arm: use NR_MEM_BANKS to override default NR_NODE_MEMBLKS Wei Chen
2021-09-24  1:34   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-26 13:13     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27  3:25       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-27  4:18         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27  4:59           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-27  6:25             ` Julien Grall
2021-09-27  6:46             ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27  6:53               ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27  7:35                 ` Julien Grall
2021-09-27 10:21                   ` Wei Chen
2021-09-27 10:39                     ` Julien Grall
2021-09-27 16:58                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-28  2:57                         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 23/37] xen/arm: implement node distance helpers for Arm Wei Chen
2021-09-24  1:46   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:41     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24 19:36       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-26 10:15         ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 24/37] xen/arm: implement two arch helpers to get memory map info Wei Chen
2021-09-24  2:06   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:42     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 25/37] xen/arm: implement bad_srat for Arm NUMA initialization Wei Chen
2021-09-24  2:09   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:45     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24  8:07     ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-24 19:33       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 26/37] xen/arm: build NUMA cpu_to_node map in dt_smp_init_cpus Wei Chen
2021-09-24  2:26   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:25     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 27/37] xen/arm: Add boot and secondary CPU to NUMA system Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 28/37] xen/arm: stub memory hotplug access helpers for Arm Wei Chen
2021-09-24  2:33   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:26     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 29/37] xen/arm: introduce a helper to parse device tree processor node Wei Chen
2021-09-24  2:44   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  4:46     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 30/37] xen/arm: introduce a helper to parse device tree memory node Wei Chen
2021-09-24  3:05   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  7:54     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 31/37] xen/arm: introduce a helper to parse device tree NUMA distance map Wei Chen
2021-09-24  3:05   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  5:23     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 32/37] xen/arm: unified entry to parse all NUMA data from device tree Wei Chen
2021-09-24  3:16   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  7:58     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24 19:42       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 33/37] xen/arm: keep guest still be NUMA unware Wei Chen
2021-09-24  3:19   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24 10:23     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 34/37] xen/arm: enable device tree based NUMA in system init Wei Chen
2021-09-24  3:28   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24  9:52     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 35/37] xen/arm: use CONFIG_NUMA to gate node_online_map in smpboot Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 36/37] xen/arm: Provide Kconfig options for Arm to enable NUMA Wei Chen
2021-09-24  3:31   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24 10:13     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-24 19:39       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-27  8:33         ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-27  8:45           ` Julien Grall
2021-09-27  9:17             ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-27 17:17               ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2021-09-28  2:59                 ` Wei Chen
2021-09-28  3:30                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-09-24 10:25   ` Jan Beulich
2021-09-24 10:37     ` Wei Chen
2021-09-23 12:02 ` [PATCH 37/37] docs: update numa command line to support Arm Wei Chen

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