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From: Fredrik Noring <noring@nocrew.org>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@imgtec.com>
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] MIPS: Add basic R5900 support
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:37:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170922163753.GA2415@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1709201604400.16752@tp.orcam.me.uk>

Hi Maciej,

>  The operation is only defined for bits 63:0 AFAICS.  IIUC bits 127:64 
> remain unchanged (which is why I think that at the initial stage of R5900 
> support they have to be explicitly set to a fixed value on a context 
> switch, to prevent leaking information), but I have no means to verify it.
> 
>  In the interim to fix the value of bits 127:64 while keeping disruption 
> to existing code at the minimum you could AFAICT use a sequence like:
> 
> 	pcpyld	$1, $0, $1
> 	pcpyld	$2, $0, $2
> #	...
> 	pcpyld	$31, $0, $31
> 
> in RESTORE_SOME, preferably via an auxiliary macro.  Once we have switched 
> to saving/restoring full 128-bit registers, possibly with SQ/LQ, we can 
> remove this temporary measure.

Sounds reasonable!

>  This would verify whether the original contents of $17 were a properly 
> sign-extended 32-bit value.  Although for predictable operation I would 
> advise to use:
> 
> 	sll	k1, $17, 0
> 	sw	k1, PT_R17(sp)
> 	lw	k1, PT_R17(sp)
> 	tne	k1, $17, 12
> 
> or simply:
> 
> 	sll	k1, $17, 0
> 	tne	k1, $17, 12
> 	sw	$17, PT_R17(sp)

There is a slight complication: the trap appears to be taken before the
console is ready, hence nothing is displayed. Is there a practical way
to postpone or recover from a trap? The issue becomes somewhat involved
since the trap needs to save/restore registers for itself to recover,
and so might evoke boundless recursion.

From a practical point of view it would be great if backtraces could be
rate limited, recoverable and possible to copy over network (I don't have
e.g. a serial port soldered). I will look into other alternatives to try
to capture this.

> Previously you wrote that the problem is with resetting the upper 96 bits 
> (how did you notice that BTW?) rather than bits 63:32 only, so you need a 
> different check.

I suspect 63:32 are the critical bits of the upper 96 bits since SD/LD
is sufficient. Summery of observations thus far: save/restore works with
SQ/LQ and SD/LD, but not SW/LW, in a 32-bit kernel ceteris paribus.

> Also I see no reason why LW would set bits 63:32 to anything different
> from what was there before SW as long as the original value was 32-bit
> (hence the second check sequence proposed).

Yes, SLL seems sufficient for testing this.

> > A question is whether registers are clobbered within the kernel itself
> > (via interrupts or some such) or for user programs.
> 
>  Well, you do need to verify your patches for such a possibility, right.  
> I would advise double-checking exception handling indeed, including 
> run-time generated exception handler code in particular.

The extremely early trap indicates a kernel issue, or perhaps register
garbage during kernel initialisation, that wouldn't be an error? Is the
run-time code related to genex.S? The R5900 patch sprinkles NOP and
SYNC.P instructions on it, for various workarounds, but not much else
apart from reverting db8466c581c "MIPS: IRQ Stack: Unwind IRQ stack onto
task stack" that otherwise crashes for an unknown reason.

Fredrik

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Fredrik Noring <noring@nocrew.org>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@imgtec.com>
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] MIPS: Add basic R5900 support
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:37:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170922163753.GA2415@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
Message-ID: <20170922163754.ffqtWX89Tva3MvEfGTf89rbq_Cik41DLma9eLJgpOFk@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1709201604400.16752@tp.orcam.me.uk>

Hi Maciej,

>  The operation is only defined for bits 63:0 AFAICS.  IIUC bits 127:64 
> remain unchanged (which is why I think that at the initial stage of R5900 
> support they have to be explicitly set to a fixed value on a context 
> switch, to prevent leaking information), but I have no means to verify it.
> 
>  In the interim to fix the value of bits 127:64 while keeping disruption 
> to existing code at the minimum you could AFAICT use a sequence like:
> 
> 	pcpyld	$1, $0, $1
> 	pcpyld	$2, $0, $2
> #	...
> 	pcpyld	$31, $0, $31
> 
> in RESTORE_SOME, preferably via an auxiliary macro.  Once we have switched 
> to saving/restoring full 128-bit registers, possibly with SQ/LQ, we can 
> remove this temporary measure.

Sounds reasonable!

>  This would verify whether the original contents of $17 were a properly 
> sign-extended 32-bit value.  Although for predictable operation I would 
> advise to use:
> 
> 	sll	k1, $17, 0
> 	sw	k1, PT_R17(sp)
> 	lw	k1, PT_R17(sp)
> 	tne	k1, $17, 12
> 
> or simply:
> 
> 	sll	k1, $17, 0
> 	tne	k1, $17, 12
> 	sw	$17, PT_R17(sp)

There is a slight complication: the trap appears to be taken before the
console is ready, hence nothing is displayed. Is there a practical way
to postpone or recover from a trap? The issue becomes somewhat involved
since the trap needs to save/restore registers for itself to recover,
and so might evoke boundless recursion.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-27 13:23 [PATCH] MIPS: Add basic R5900 support Fredrik Noring
2017-08-28 13:53 ` Ralf Baechle
2017-08-28 17:11   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-08-29 17:33   ` Fredrik Noring
2017-08-29 17:24 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-08-29 17:24   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-08-30 13:23   ` Fredrik Noring
2017-08-31 15:11     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-08-31 15:11       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-02 10:28   ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-09 10:13     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-09 10:13       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-11  5:21       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-11  5:21         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-12 17:59         ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-15 11:12           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-15 11:12             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-15 13:19             ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-15 18:28               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-15 18:28                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-02 14:10   ` [PATCH v2] " Fredrik Noring
2017-09-11  5:18     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-11  5:18       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-11 15:17       ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-14 13:50         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-14 13:50           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-16 13:34           ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-18 17:05             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-18 17:05               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-18 19:24               ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-19 12:44                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-19 12:44                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-20 14:54                   ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-26 11:50                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-26 11:50                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-27 17:21                       ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-28 12:13                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-28 12:13                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-30  6:56                           ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-02  9:05                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-02  9:05                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-02 16:33                               ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-29 17:20                               ` Fredrik Noring
2017-11-10 23:34                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-11-10 23:34                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-11-11 16:04                                   ` Fredrik Noring
2018-01-29 20:27                                     ` Fredrik Noring
2018-01-31 23:01                                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-11  7:29                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Workaround for the short loop bug Fredrik Noring
2018-02-12  9:25                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-12 15:22                                             ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-11  7:46                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Use SYNC.L for data cache and SYNC.P for instruction cache Fredrik Noring
2018-02-11  7:56                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Workaround exception NOP execution bug (FLX05) Fredrik Noring
2018-02-12  9:28                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-15 19:15                                             ` [RFC v2] " Fredrik Noring
2018-02-15 20:49                                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-17 11:16                                                 ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-17 11:57                                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-17 13:38                                                     ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-17 15:03                                                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-17 20:04                                                         ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-20 14:09                                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-22 17:04                                                             ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-18  8:47                                                 ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-20 14:41                                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-22 17:27                                                     ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-11  8:01                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Workaround for CACHE instruction near branch delay slot Fredrik Noring
2018-02-11 11:16                                           ` Aw: " "Jürgen Urban"
2018-02-11  8:09                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: The ERET instruction has issues with delay slot and CACHE Fredrik Noring
2018-02-11 11:07                                           ` Aw: " "Jürgen Urban"
2018-02-11  8:29                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Use mandatory SYNC.L in exception handlers Fredrik Noring
2018-02-11 10:33                                           ` Aw: " "Jürgen Urban"
2018-02-12  9:22                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-12  9:22                                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-18 10:30                                               ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-17 14:43                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Workaround for saving and restoring FPU registers Fredrik Noring
2018-02-17 15:18                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-17 17:47                                             ` Fredrik Noring
2018-02-17 19:33                                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-02-18  9:26                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Workaround where MSB must be 0 for the instruction cache Fredrik Noring
2018-02-18 11:08                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: R5900: Add mandatory SYNC.P to all M[FT]C0 instructions Fredrik Noring
2018-03-03 12:26                                         ` [RFC] MIPS: PS2: Interrupt request (IRQ) support Fredrik Noring
2018-03-03 13:09                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-03-03 14:14                                             ` Fredrik Noring
2018-04-09 15:51                                             ` Fredrik Noring
2018-03-18 10:45                                           ` Fredrik Noring
2018-03-19 19:15                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-18 18:52                                             ` [RFC v2] " Fredrik Noring
2017-10-30 17:55                               ` [PATCH v2] MIPS: Add basic R5900 support Fredrik Noring
2017-11-24 10:26                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-11-24 10:26                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-11-24 10:39                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-11-24 10:39                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-20 14:07               ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-21 21:07                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-21 21:07                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-22 16:37                   ` Fredrik Noring [this message]
2017-09-22 16:37                     ` Fredrik Noring
2017-09-29 23:55                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-29 23:55                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-30 18:26                       ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-02  9:11                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-02  9:11                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-03 19:49                           ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-05 19:04                             ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-06 20:28                           ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-15 16:39                             ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-17 12:23                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-17 12:23                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-21 18:00                                 ` Fredrik Noring
2017-10-23 16:10                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-23 16:10                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-21 18:11               ` Paul Burton
2017-09-21 18:11                 ` Paul Burton
2017-09-21 19:48                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-09-21 19:48                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-10-29 18:42       ` Fredrik Noring

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