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From: Huang Shijie <b32955@freescale.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Huang Shijie <shijie8@gmail.com>,
	B20596@freescale.com, B20223@freescale.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, r58066@freescale.com,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, shawn.guo@linaro.org,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	alan@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] serial/imx: add DMA support
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:53:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F9BAFED.7030204@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120427153031.GA27792@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

于 2012年04月27日 23:30, Russell King - ARM Linux 写道:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:18:15AM -0400, Huang Shijie wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>  wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 05:46:22PM +0800, Huang Shijie wrote:
>>>>>>> 1. How do you deal with transmitting the high-priority XON/XOFF
>>>>>>>       characters (port->x_char) which occur with s/w flow control and
>>>>>>>       the tty buffers fill up?
>>>>>>> 2. How do you deal with flow control in general?  IOW, what happens
>>>>>>>       when the remote end deasserts your CTS with h/w flow control enabled.
>>>> If the remote end deasserts my CTS, it means the remote will not send
>>>> any data.
>>>>
>>>> My DMA for RX will expire in the following steps:
>>>> [1] the UART only waits for 32 bytes time long
>>>> [2] the UART triggers an IDLE Condition Detect DMA.
>>>> [3] the dma_rx_callback() will release the DMA for Rx.
>>> Err, hang on.  I think you're totally confused about hardware flow
>>> control.  Certainly you're not using the correct terms for what you're
>>> describing.
>>>
>>> The CTS input normally controls the transmitter.  In many hardware
>>> assisted hardware flow control setups, the deassertion of CTS merely
>>> prevents the transmitter starting a new character.
>>>
>>> This shouldn't have any effect on the receiver of the same UART at all.
>>>
>>>>>>>       How does your end deal with sending RTS according to flow control
>>>>>>>       conditions?
>>>>>>>
>>>> If a CTS is received after we sent out a RTS, it will follow the steps:
>>>>   imx_int() -->  imx_rtsint() -->  uart_handle_cts_change() -->start_tx()
>>>>
>>>> The start_tx() will create an TX DMA operation, and send out the data.
>>> The generation of RTS (connected to the remote ends CTS signal) is
>>> supposed to control whether the remote end sends you characters.  RTS
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_control#Hardware_flow_control
>>
>> > From the wiki, the generation of RTS (assert by the  "master end") is
>> used to send data
>> from the master to slave(the remote), not control the remote end sends
>> me characters.
> Well, there's a lot of confusion over RTS.  Most implementations of it
> are as per this paragraph on the above page:
>
>   A non-standard symmetric alternative, commonly called "RTS/CTS handshaking,"
>   was developed by various equipment manufacturers. In this scheme, CTS is no
>   longer a response to RTS; instead, CTS indicates permission from the DCE
>   for the DTE to send data to the DCE, and RTS indicates permission from
>   the DTE for the DCE to send data to the DTE. RTS and CTS are controlled
>   by the DTE and DCE respectively, each independent of the other. This was
>   eventually codified in version RS-232-E (actually TIA-232-E by that time)
>   by defining a new signal, "RTR (Ready to Receive)," which is CCITT V.24
>   circuit 133. TIA-232-E and the corresponding international standards were
>   updated to show that circuit 133, when implemented, shares the same pin
>   as RTS (Request to Send), and that when 133 is in use, RTS is assumed by
>   the DCE to be ON at all times
>
> This is what is actually used by all NULL modem cables, serial consoles,
> and many modems can be (sensibly) configured to support it.  Many
> modems can be configured via AT commands to respond as per the above
> paragraph too.
>
> And this is the hardware flow control scheme implemented by the Linux
> Kernel for CRTSCTS, plus the hardware assisted hardware flow control
> provided by industry standard UARTs such as the 1675x and later UARTs.
>
thanks a lot.

I will read the this explanation carefully, and fix my code.

Best Regards
Huang Shijie

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From: b32955@freescale.com (Huang Shijie)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] serial/imx: add DMA support
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:53:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F9BAFED.7030204@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120427153031.GA27792@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

? 2012?04?27? 23:30, Russell King - ARM Linux ??:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:18:15AM -0400, Huang Shijie wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>  wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 05:46:22PM +0800, Huang Shijie wrote:
>>>>>>> 1. How do you deal with transmitting the high-priority XON/XOFF
>>>>>>>       characters (port->x_char) which occur with s/w flow control and
>>>>>>>       the tty buffers fill up?
>>>>>>> 2. How do you deal with flow control in general?  IOW, what happens
>>>>>>>       when the remote end deasserts your CTS with h/w flow control enabled.
>>>> If the remote end deasserts my CTS, it means the remote will not send
>>>> any data.
>>>>
>>>> My DMA for RX will expire in the following steps:
>>>> [1] the UART only waits for 32 bytes time long
>>>> [2] the UART triggers an IDLE Condition Detect DMA.
>>>> [3] the dma_rx_callback() will release the DMA for Rx.
>>> Err, hang on.  I think you're totally confused about hardware flow
>>> control.  Certainly you're not using the correct terms for what you're
>>> describing.
>>>
>>> The CTS input normally controls the transmitter.  In many hardware
>>> assisted hardware flow control setups, the deassertion of CTS merely
>>> prevents the transmitter starting a new character.
>>>
>>> This shouldn't have any effect on the receiver of the same UART at all.
>>>
>>>>>>>       How does your end deal with sending RTS according to flow control
>>>>>>>       conditions?
>>>>>>>
>>>> If a CTS is received after we sent out a RTS, it will follow the steps:
>>>>   imx_int() -->  imx_rtsint() -->  uart_handle_cts_change() -->start_tx()
>>>>
>>>> The start_tx() will create an TX DMA operation, and send out the data.
>>> The generation of RTS (connected to the remote ends CTS signal) is
>>> supposed to control whether the remote end sends you characters.  RTS
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_control#Hardware_flow_control
>>
>> > From the wiki, the generation of RTS (assert by the  "master end") is
>> used to send data
>> from the master to slave(the remote), not control the remote end sends
>> me characters.
> Well, there's a lot of confusion over RTS.  Most implementations of it
> are as per this paragraph on the above page:
>
>   A non-standard symmetric alternative, commonly called "RTS/CTS handshaking,"
>   was developed by various equipment manufacturers. In this scheme, CTS is no
>   longer a response to RTS; instead, CTS indicates permission from the DCE
>   for the DTE to send data to the DCE, and RTS indicates permission from
>   the DTE for the DCE to send data to the DTE. RTS and CTS are controlled
>   by the DTE and DCE respectively, each independent of the other. This was
>   eventually codified in version RS-232-E (actually TIA-232-E by that time)
>   by defining a new signal, "RTR (Ready to Receive)," which is CCITT V.24
>   circuit 133. TIA-232-E and the corresponding international standards were
>   updated to show that circuit 133, when implemented, shares the same pin
>   as RTS (Request to Send), and that when 133 is in use, RTS is assumed by
>   the DCE to be ON at all times
>
> This is what is actually used by all NULL modem cables, serial consoles,
> and many modems can be (sensibly) configured to support it.  Many
> modems can be configured via AT commands to respond as per the above
> paragraph too.
>
> And this is the hardware flow control scheme implemented by the Linux
> Kernel for CRTSCTS, plus the hardware assisted hardware flow control
> provided by industry standard UARTs such as the 1675x and later UARTs.
>
thanks a lot.

I will read the this explanation carefully, and fix my code.

Best Regards
Huang Shijie

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-28  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-26 10:37 [PATCH 0/2] add DMA support to uart Huang Shijie
2012-04-26 10:37 ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-26 10:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] serial/imx: add DMA support Huang Shijie
2012-04-26 10:37   ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-26 11:11   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-26 11:11     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-27  7:00     ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27  7:00       ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27  8:22       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-27  8:22         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-27  8:38         ` Richard Zhao
2012-04-27  8:38           ` Richard Zhao
2012-04-27  9:46         ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27  9:46           ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27  9:50           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-27  9:50             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-27 15:18             ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27 15:18               ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27 15:30               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-27 15:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-04-28  8:53                 ` Huang Shijie [this message]
2012-04-28  8:53                   ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-26 12:00   ` Sascha Hauer
2012-04-26 12:00     ` Sascha Hauer
2012-04-27  6:09     ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27  6:09       ` Huang Shijie
2012-05-16  9:37       ` Philippe Rétornaz
2012-05-16  9:37         ` Philippe Rétornaz
2012-05-16  9:42         ` Huang Shijie
2012-05-16  9:42           ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-27 17:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-04-27 17:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-04-28  8:54     ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-28  8:54       ` Huang Shijie
2012-04-26 10:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: MX6q: enable DMA support for UART2 Huang Shijie
2012-04-26 10:37   ` Huang Shijie

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