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From: Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>
To: balbi@ti.com
Cc: Rajendra Nayak <rnayak@ti.com>, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Bedia, Vaibhav" <vaibhav.bedia@ti.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Mark Jackson <mpfj-list@newflow.co.uk>,
	Sourav Poddar <sourav.poddar@ti.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>
Subject: Re: Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:16:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DD50B6.5030604@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130709194131.GA12523@arwen.pp.htv.fi>

On 07/09/2013 10:41 PM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 09:59:28PM +0300, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
>>>>> Imagine the device is marked as suspended even though it's fully enabled
>>>>> (it hasn't been suspended by hwmod due to NO_IDLE flag). In that case
>>>>> your context structure is all zeroes (context has never been saved
>>>>> before) then when you call pm_runtime_get_sync() on probe() your
>>>>> ->runtime_resume() will get called, which will restore context,
>>>>> essentially undoing anything which was configured by u-boot.
>>>>
>>>> This could be a problem for drivers which do a save context in ->runtime_suspend()
>>>> but from what I see with omap serial, there is no save context done as part of
>>>> ->runtime_suspend.
>>>
>>> right, because context is "saved" in set_termios. probe() will get
>>> called much before set_termios() has a chance to run, right ?
>>>
>>> Same problem will trigger in that case.
>>>
>>> I still think patch below is necessary
>>>
>>>>> (completely untested, didn't even try to compile, just to illustrate)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c
>>>>> index 7341eff..d8dca68 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c
>>>>> @@ -2559,6 +2559,12 @@ static void __init _setup_postsetup(struct omap_hwmod *oh)
>>>>>   	    (postsetup_state == _HWMOD_STATE_IDLE)) {
>>>>>   		oh->_int_flags |= _HWMOD_SKIP_ENABLE;
>>>>>   		postsetup_state = _HWMOD_STATE_ENABLED;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +		/* tell pm_runtime this device is already active */
>>>>> +		pm_runtime_set_active(&oh->od->pdev->dev);
>>>>> +	} else {
>>>>> +		/* tell pm_runtime this device is trully suspended */
>>>>> +		pm_runtime_set_suspended(&oh->od->pdev->dev);
>>>>>   	}
>>>>>
>>>>>   	if (postsetup_state == _HWMOD_STATE_IDLE)
>>>
>>
>> This will not work - _setup_postsetup() is called from core_initcall
>> level and OMAP devices have not been created at this moment yet
>> (of_platform_populate() is called from
>> customize_machine->init_machine->omap_generic_init() at arch_initcall time)
>
> fair enough, but something *like* that needs to be done. If pm_runtime
> doesn't know the state of the device by the time pm_runtime_enable() is
> called, the wrong assumptions might be made and we will forever have
> such problems as our ->runtime_resume() callback being called when it
> shouldn't.
>
>> More over, I don't recommend to depend on hwmod->od field - it's been
>> created to support OPPs and it's obsolete now in case of DT use.
>
> that's alright, but still we need something similar.
>
> But in any case, if on DT boot that's not used, than *what* uses
> HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE during DT boot ?
>
> There's a single place in kernel source which checks if
> HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE is set, and that's the place which I patched.
>
> We, certainly, need a way to tell pm_runtime if the device is active or
> suspended by the time we reach our probe() function. Either we assume
> *all* devices are active and we blindly call pm_runtime_set_active() for
> all devices, or we assume *all* devices are suspended as we call
> pm_runtime_set_suspend() for all devices, or we figure out which ones
> are active and which are not and call pm_runtime_set_{active,suspend}()
> conditionally.
>
>> Seems, This issue need to be handled in driver for DT boot use case,
>> possibly cmdline need to be parsed in the same way as it's done in
>> omap_serial_early_init().
>
> so you want *every* single driver to parse their own cmdline ? How big
> would the cmdline become ? This makes no sense.
>

Agree here. Seems there two similar issues:
- this one with omap_serial
- GPIO reset issue http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg84186.html
   (similar issue is observed on OMAP4460+TPS6236x)

And I think, that HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE and HWMOD_INIT_NO_RESET flags can't 
be treated as
SoC (IP) specific parameters any more - they should be board specific.

I think, some kind of board_layout {} DT definition need to be created 
to solve these issues (just an idea). For example:

Board DTS file:
board_layout {
  ti,hwmods-init-no-reset = "gpio1", "uart3";
  ti,hwmods-init-no-idle = "uart3";
}

Then above DT parameters can be used in omap_hwmod_setup_all()->_setup()
and omap_device_build_from_dt().
- omap_hwmod_setup_all()->_setup() will configure hwmod's flags
- omap_device_build_from_dt() will check for HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE and
   call pm_runtime_set_active() if needed (this is the valid place for that)

NOTE. "ti,hwmods-init-no-reset" and "ti,hwmods-init-no-idle" can't be 
defined per device, because HWMOD framework will work 
(init/reset/setup/idle) with IP even if corresponding IP is not defined 
in DT.

More over, board_layout{} section can be used to define some common for 
OMAP2+ boards properties or enable/disable PM features, like:
- Setup clksetup/clkshoutdown time for oscillator
- enable/disable OFF-mode

Regards,
-grygorii


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: grygorii.strashko@ti.com (Grygorii Strashko)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:16:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DD50B6.5030604@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130709194131.GA12523@arwen.pp.htv.fi>

On 07/09/2013 10:41 PM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 09:59:28PM +0300, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
>>>>> Imagine the device is marked as suspended even though it's fully enabled
>>>>> (it hasn't been suspended by hwmod due to NO_IDLE flag). In that case
>>>>> your context structure is all zeroes (context has never been saved
>>>>> before) then when you call pm_runtime_get_sync() on probe() your
>>>>> ->runtime_resume() will get called, which will restore context,
>>>>> essentially undoing anything which was configured by u-boot.
>>>>
>>>> This could be a problem for drivers which do a save context in ->runtime_suspend()
>>>> but from what I see with omap serial, there is no save context done as part of
>>>> ->runtime_suspend.
>>>
>>> right, because context is "saved" in set_termios. probe() will get
>>> called much before set_termios() has a chance to run, right ?
>>>
>>> Same problem will trigger in that case.
>>>
>>> I still think patch below is necessary
>>>
>>>>> (completely untested, didn't even try to compile, just to illustrate)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c
>>>>> index 7341eff..d8dca68 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap_hwmod.c
>>>>> @@ -2559,6 +2559,12 @@ static void __init _setup_postsetup(struct omap_hwmod *oh)
>>>>>   	    (postsetup_state == _HWMOD_STATE_IDLE)) {
>>>>>   		oh->_int_flags |= _HWMOD_SKIP_ENABLE;
>>>>>   		postsetup_state = _HWMOD_STATE_ENABLED;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +		/* tell pm_runtime this device is already active */
>>>>> +		pm_runtime_set_active(&oh->od->pdev->dev);
>>>>> +	} else {
>>>>> +		/* tell pm_runtime this device is trully suspended */
>>>>> +		pm_runtime_set_suspended(&oh->od->pdev->dev);
>>>>>   	}
>>>>>
>>>>>   	if (postsetup_state == _HWMOD_STATE_IDLE)
>>>
>>
>> This will not work - _setup_postsetup() is called from core_initcall
>> level and OMAP devices have not been created at this moment yet
>> (of_platform_populate() is called from
>> customize_machine->init_machine->omap_generic_init() at arch_initcall time)
>
> fair enough, but something *like* that needs to be done. If pm_runtime
> doesn't know the state of the device by the time pm_runtime_enable() is
> called, the wrong assumptions might be made and we will forever have
> such problems as our ->runtime_resume() callback being called when it
> shouldn't.
>
>> More over, I don't recommend to depend on hwmod->od field - it's been
>> created to support OPPs and it's obsolete now in case of DT use.
>
> that's alright, but still we need something similar.
>
> But in any case, if on DT boot that's not used, than *what* uses
> HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE during DT boot ?
>
> There's a single place in kernel source which checks if
> HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE is set, and that's the place which I patched.
>
> We, certainly, need a way to tell pm_runtime if the device is active or
> suspended by the time we reach our probe() function. Either we assume
> *all* devices are active and we blindly call pm_runtime_set_active() for
> all devices, or we assume *all* devices are suspended as we call
> pm_runtime_set_suspend() for all devices, or we figure out which ones
> are active and which are not and call pm_runtime_set_{active,suspend}()
> conditionally.
>
>> Seems, This issue need to be handled in driver for DT boot use case,
>> possibly cmdline need to be parsed in the same way as it's done in
>> omap_serial_early_init().
>
> so you want *every* single driver to parse their own cmdline ? How big
> would the cmdline become ? This makes no sense.
>

Agree here. Seems there two similar issues:
- this one with omap_serial
- GPIO reset issue http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg84186.html
   (similar issue is observed on OMAP4460+TPS6236x)

And I think, that HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE and HWMOD_INIT_NO_RESET flags can't 
be treated as
SoC (IP) specific parameters any more - they should be board specific.

I think, some kind of board_layout {} DT definition need to be created 
to solve these issues (just an idea). For example:

Board DTS file:
board_layout {
  ti,hwmods-init-no-reset = "gpio1", "uart3";
  ti,hwmods-init-no-idle = "uart3";
}

Then above DT parameters can be used in omap_hwmod_setup_all()->_setup()
and omap_device_build_from_dt().
- omap_hwmod_setup_all()->_setup() will configure hwmod's flags
- omap_device_build_from_dt() will check for HWMOD_INIT_NO_IDLE and
   call pm_runtime_set_active() if needed (this is the valid place for that)

NOTE. "ti,hwmods-init-no-reset" and "ti,hwmods-init-no-idle" can't be 
defined per device, because HWMOD framework will work 
(init/reset/setup/idle) with IP even if corresponding IP is not defined 
in DT.

More over, board_layout{} section can be used to define some common for 
OMAP2+ boards properties or enable/disable PM features, like:
- Setup clksetup/clkshoutdown time for oscillator
- enable/disable OFF-mode

Regards,
-grygorii

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-10 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-04 13:25 Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0 Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 13:25 ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 15:14 ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 15:14   ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 16:00   ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 16:00     ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-05  8:11     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05  8:11       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 11:59       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-05 11:59         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-05 13:20         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 13:20           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 13:31           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 13:31             ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-08 11:25             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 11:25               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 12:16               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 12:16                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 12:41               ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 12:41                 ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:10                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 13:10                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 13:20                   ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:20                     ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:25                     ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:25                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:35                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-08 13:35                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  5:33                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  5:33                         ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  6:42                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  6:42                           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  7:19                           ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  7:19                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  7:40                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  7:40                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09 18:59                           ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-09 18:59                             ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-09 19:41                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09 19:41                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 12:16                               ` Grygorii Strashko [this message]
2013-07-10 12:16                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-10 12:25                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 12:25                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10  8:22                       ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-10  8:22                         ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-10 12:10                         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 12:10                           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 12:27                           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 12:27                             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 14:26                         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 14:26                           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 16:07                           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 16:07                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 16:11                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 16:11                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11  6:32                               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  6:32                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  9:59                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-11  9:59                                   ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-12  0:40                                   ` Suman Anna
2013-07-12  0:40                                     ` Suman Anna
2013-07-15  6:44                                     ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15  6:44                                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15 10:01                                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15 10:01                                         ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15 19:23                                         ` Suman Anna
2013-07-15 19:23                                           ` Suman Anna
2013-07-16  6:30                                           ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-16  6:30                                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:17                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:17                               ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:26                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11  9:26                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11 10:16                                 ` [PATCH] arm: omap2plus: unidle devices which are about to probe Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11 10:16                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-12 11:58                                   ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-12 11:58                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-12 12:10                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-12 12:10                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-12 12:27                                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-12 12:27                                         ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-13 22:21                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-13 22:21                                     ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-11  9:59                               ` Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0 Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-11  9:59                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-16 10:27                               ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-16 10:27                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-17  7:10                                 ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-17  7:10                                   ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  6:18                           ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  6:18                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  6:24                             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  6:24                               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  9:11                               ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:11                                 ` Rajendra Nayak

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