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From: Suman Anna <s-anna@ti.com>
To: Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>, Rajendra Nayak <rnayak@ti.com>,
	"Bedia, Vaibhav" <vaibhav.bedia@ti.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Mark Jackson <mpfj-list@newflow.co.uk>,
	Sourav Poddar <sourav.poddar@ti.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>
Subject: Re: Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:40:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DF508F.3050703@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DE8215.5060306@ti.com>

On 07/11/2013 04:59 AM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 07/11/2013 09:32 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>> * Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com> [130710 09:18]:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:07:04PM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>> how about something like below ? It makes omap_device/hwmod and
>>>> pm_runtime agree on the initial state of the device and will prevent
>>>> ->runtime_resume() from being called on first pm_runtime_get*() done
>>>> during probe.
>>>>
>>>> This is similar to what PCI bus does (if you look at pci_pm_init()).
>>>>
>>>> commit 59108a500b4ab4b1a5102648a3360276dbf7df6f
>>>> Author: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
>>>> Date:   Wed Jul 10 18:50:16 2013 +0300
>>>>
>>>>      arm: omap2plus: unidle devices which are about to probe
>>>>
>>>>      in order to make HWMOD and pm_runtime agree on the
>>>>      initial state of the device, we will unidle the device
>>>>      and call pm_runtime_set_active() to tell pm_runtime
>>>>      that the device is really active.
> Don't think that it's good idea (
> I've checked some driver's and think this patch will enable some devices
> unpredictably:
> - hwspinlock
> - mailbox
> - iommu
> - ipu
> All above devices need to be enabled on demand only (no
> pm_runtime_get*() calls in probe). More over, some of them have very
> specific enabling sequence - like ipu).
> 
> May be Summan can say more on that.

Indeed, this is a problem for any of the slave processor devices.
mailbox and iommu would be slaves to the remoteproc and the drivers have
a specific sequence of bringing up a processor. The current
hwmod/omap_device code is such that these devices will be left in reset
and the driver code use the omap_device_(de)assert_hardreset API
together with omap_device_enable code to bring up the devices. The
remoteproc driver also needs to assert the resets (there are other
problems associated with using omap_device_idle for remoteproc and
iommu) for bringing up the devices after a suspend sequence. hwspinlock
and mailbox may get away since they are in CORE domain, but definitely
an issue for iommu and remoteproc. I would think that this would also
affect other compute devices like IVAHD, ISS, SGX.

regards
Suman

> 
>>>>
>>>>      By the time driver's probe() is reached, a call to
>>>>      pm_runtime_get_sync() will not cause driver's
>>>>      ->runtime_resume() method to be called at first, only
>>>>      after a successful ->runtime_suspend().
>>>>
>>>>      Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
>>>
>>> btw, this is RFC, haven't tested at all.
>>
>> Yes it does not compile, then removing the extra ; at the end
>> of the functions, it oopses with a NULL pointer exception.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tony
>> -- 
>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-omap" in
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>>
> 


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From: s-anna@ti.com (Suman Anna)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:40:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DF508F.3050703@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DE8215.5060306@ti.com>

On 07/11/2013 04:59 AM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 07/11/2013 09:32 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>> * Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com> [130710 09:18]:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:07:04PM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>> how about something like below ? It makes omap_device/hwmod and
>>>> pm_runtime agree on the initial state of the device and will prevent
>>>> ->runtime_resume() from being called on first pm_runtime_get*() done
>>>> during probe.
>>>>
>>>> This is similar to what PCI bus does (if you look at pci_pm_init()).
>>>>
>>>> commit 59108a500b4ab4b1a5102648a3360276dbf7df6f
>>>> Author: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
>>>> Date:   Wed Jul 10 18:50:16 2013 +0300
>>>>
>>>>      arm: omap2plus: unidle devices which are about to probe
>>>>
>>>>      in order to make HWMOD and pm_runtime agree on the
>>>>      initial state of the device, we will unidle the device
>>>>      and call pm_runtime_set_active() to tell pm_runtime
>>>>      that the device is really active.
> Don't think that it's good idea (
> I've checked some driver's and think this patch will enable some devices
> unpredictably:
> - hwspinlock
> - mailbox
> - iommu
> - ipu
> All above devices need to be enabled on demand only (no
> pm_runtime_get*() calls in probe). More over, some of them have very
> specific enabling sequence - like ipu).
> 
> May be Summan can say more on that.

Indeed, this is a problem for any of the slave processor devices.
mailbox and iommu would be slaves to the remoteproc and the drivers have
a specific sequence of bringing up a processor. The current
hwmod/omap_device code is such that these devices will be left in reset
and the driver code use the omap_device_(de)assert_hardreset API
together with omap_device_enable code to bring up the devices. The
remoteproc driver also needs to assert the resets (there are other
problems associated with using omap_device_idle for remoteproc and
iommu) for bringing up the devices after a suspend sequence. hwspinlock
and mailbox may get away since they are in CORE domain, but definitely
an issue for iommu and remoteproc. I would think that this would also
affect other compute devices like IVAHD, ISS, SGX.

regards
Suman

> 
>>>>
>>>>      By the time driver's probe() is reached, a call to
>>>>      pm_runtime_get_sync() will not cause driver's
>>>>      ->runtime_resume() method to be called at first, only
>>>>      after a successful ->runtime_suspend().
>>>>
>>>>      Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
>>>
>>> btw, this is RFC, haven't tested at all.
>>
>> Yes it does not compile, then removing the extra ; at the end
>> of the functions, it oopses with a NULL pointer exception.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tony
>> -- 
>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-omap" in
>> the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org
>> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>>
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-12  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-04 13:25 Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0 Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 13:25 ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 15:14 ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 15:14   ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 16:00   ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-04 16:00     ` Mark Jackson
2013-07-05  8:11     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05  8:11       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 11:59       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-05 11:59         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-05 13:20         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 13:20           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 13:31           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-05 13:31             ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2013-07-08 11:25             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 11:25               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 12:16               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 12:16                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 12:41               ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 12:41                 ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:10                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 13:10                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-08 13:20                   ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:20                     ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:25                     ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:25                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-08 13:35                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-08 13:35                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  5:33                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  5:33                         ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  6:42                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  6:42                           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  7:19                           ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  7:19                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-09  7:40                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09  7:40                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09 18:59                           ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-09 18:59                             ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-09 19:41                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-09 19:41                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 12:16                               ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-10 12:16                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-10 12:25                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 12:25                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10  8:22                       ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-10  8:22                         ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-10 12:10                         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 12:10                           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 12:27                           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 12:27                             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 14:26                         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 14:26                           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-10 16:07                           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 16:07                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 16:11                             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-10 16:11                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11  6:32                               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  6:32                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  9:59                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-11  9:59                                   ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-12  0:40                                   ` Suman Anna [this message]
2013-07-12  0:40                                     ` Suman Anna
2013-07-15  6:44                                     ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15  6:44                                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15 10:01                                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15 10:01                                         ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-15 19:23                                         ` Suman Anna
2013-07-15 19:23                                           ` Suman Anna
2013-07-16  6:30                                           ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-16  6:30                                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:17                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:17                               ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:26                               ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11  9:26                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11 10:16                                 ` [PATCH] arm: omap2plus: unidle devices which are about to probe Felipe Balbi
2013-07-11 10:16                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-12 11:58                                   ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-12 11:58                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-12 12:10                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-12 12:10                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-12 12:27                                       ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-12 12:27                                         ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-13 22:21                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-13 22:21                                     ` Kevin Hilman
2013-07-11  9:59                               ` Boot hang regression 3.10.0-rc4 -> 3.10.0 Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-11  9:59                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-16 10:27                               ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-16 10:27                                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2013-07-17  7:10                                 ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-17  7:10                                   ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  6:18                           ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  6:18                             ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  6:24                             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  6:24                               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-11  9:11                               ` Rajendra Nayak
2013-07-11  9:11                                 ` Rajendra Nayak

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