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From: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@mns.spb.ru>
To: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Major 2.6.38 / 2.6.39 / 3.0 regression ignored?
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:08:14 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110722210814.GC14453@tugrik.mns.mnsspb.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yunsjpyrqf7.fsf@aiko.keithp.com>

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 01:50:04PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:23:36 +0400, Kirill Smelkov <kirr@mns.spb.ru> wrote:
> 
> > What kind of a workaround are you talking about?
> 
> Just reverting the commit -- that makes your machine work, even if it's
> wrong for other machines.

Yes, I could revert it. But since the driver is reasonably complex, it
is better to know what I'm doing and that the change makes sense,
especially when it's not "my machine", but lots of target boards located
all over the country.

That's why I wanted, and imho reasonably, because I did the homework,
your feedback - to be not on my own, alone.


> > Sorry, to me it all looked like "UMS is being ignored forever".
> 
> You're right, of course -- UMS is a huge wart on the kernel driver at
> this point, keeping it working while also adding new functionality
> continues to cause challenges. We tend to expect that most people will
> run reasonably contemporaneous kernel and user space code, and so three
> years after the switch, it continues to surprise us when someone
> actually tries UMS.

We are planning upgrade to KMS too. The kernel is upgraded more often
compared to userspace, because of already mentioned (thanks!) "no
regression" rule. Userspace is more complex and more work in my context,
so it is lagging, but eventually we'll get there.

So I hope some day, when everyone upgrades, UMS support could be
"cleaned up" out from the driver.


> > I'm out of office till ~ next week's tuesday, and on return I'll try
> > to test it on the hardware in question.
> 
> Let me know; I've pushed this patch to my drm-intel-fixes tree on
> kernel.org in the meantime; if it does solve the problem, I'd like to
> add your Tested-by: line.

Yes, sure, I'll let you know the results.


Thanks,
Kirill

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-22 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-20 17:06 Major 2.6.38 regression ignored? Luke-Jr
2011-05-20 18:08 ` Ray Lee
2011-05-20 20:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-20 21:11     ` Ray Lee
2011-05-21  8:41   ` Chris Wilson
2011-05-21 15:23     ` Luke-Jr
2011-05-21 15:40       ` Chris Wilson
2011-05-21 19:33         ` Luke-Jr
2011-05-28 13:19         ` Major 2.6.38 / 2.6.39 " Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-12 17:17           ` [Intel-gfx] " Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-12 18:07             ` Pekka Enberg
     [not found]               ` <CA+55aFxakA2U+oMJ1T7awTYa+p6xp9N0aCbfrUqgkF7BJ8gnQw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-22 11:08                 ` Major 2.6.38 / 2.6.39 / 3.0 " Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-22 14:12                   ` Herbert Xu
2011-07-22 18:00                   ` Keith Packard
2011-07-22 20:23                     ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-22 20:50                       ` Keith Packard
2011-07-22 21:08                         ` Kirill Smelkov [this message]
2011-07-22 21:31                           ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-23 15:10                             ` [Intel-gfx] " Alex Deucher
2011-07-23 18:19                               ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-23 15:55                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  4:29                           ` Keith Packard
2011-07-26 13:48                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 12:08                         ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 14:00                           ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2011-08-09 14:47                             ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 15:09                               ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2011-08-09 15:34                                 ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 16:02                                   ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2011-08-09 16:32                                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 16:56                                       ` Ray Lee
2011-08-09 17:40                                         ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 17:43                                           ` [Intel-gfx] " Ray Lee
2011-08-10  8:36                                             ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-10  9:41                                           ` [Intel-gfx] " Alan Cox
2011-08-10 11:37                                             ` Kirill Smelkov

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