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From: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
To: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@mns.spb.ru>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] Major 2.6.38 / 2.6.39 / 3.0 regression ignored?
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:10:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADnq5_NG4eZ0nc-Xk+hvpaMhLz18=W3V7+AWxf+_s8GXpZmwmg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110722213102.GA14749@tugrik.mns.mnsspb.ru>

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Kirill Smelkov <kirr@mns.spb.ru> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 01:08:14AM +0400, Kirill Smelkov wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 01:50:04PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote:
>
>> > You're right, of course -- UMS is a huge wart on the kernel driver at
>> > this point, keeping it working while also adding new functionality
>> > continues to cause challenges. We tend to expect that most people will
>> > run reasonably contemporaneous kernel and user space code, and so three
>> > years after the switch, it continues to surprise us when someone
>> > actually tries UMS.
>>
>> We are planning upgrade to KMS too. The kernel is upgraded more often
>> compared to userspace, because of already mentioned (thanks!) "no
>> regression" rule. Userspace is more complex and more work in my context,
>> so it is lagging, but eventually we'll get there.
>
> Also wanted to say, that if whole X could be built, like the kernel, from one
> repo without multirepo-setup tool, with 100% reliable working
> incremental rebuild, etc... it would be a bit easier to upgrade X too.
>
> Sorry for being a bit offtopic, could not resist. I was keeping that
> though in my head for ~ 2 years already, and now had a chance to mention it.

You don't have to rebuild all of X to use KMS.  In most cases, you
just need to update the ddx for your card.

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-23 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-20 17:06 Major 2.6.38 regression ignored? Luke-Jr
2011-05-20 18:08 ` Ray Lee
2011-05-20 20:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-05-20 21:11     ` Ray Lee
2011-05-21  8:41   ` Chris Wilson
2011-05-21 15:23     ` Luke-Jr
2011-05-21 15:40       ` Chris Wilson
2011-05-21 19:33         ` Luke-Jr
2011-05-28 13:19         ` Major 2.6.38 / 2.6.39 " Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-12 17:17           ` [Intel-gfx] " Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-12 18:07             ` Pekka Enberg
     [not found]               ` <CA+55aFxakA2U+oMJ1T7awTYa+p6xp9N0aCbfrUqgkF7BJ8gnQw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-22 11:08                 ` Major 2.6.38 / 2.6.39 / 3.0 " Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-22 14:12                   ` Herbert Xu
2011-07-22 18:00                   ` Keith Packard
2011-07-22 20:23                     ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-22 20:50                       ` Keith Packard
2011-07-22 21:08                         ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-22 21:31                           ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-23 15:10                             ` Alex Deucher [this message]
2011-07-23 18:19                               ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-07-23 15:55                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25  4:29                           ` Keith Packard
2011-07-26 13:48                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 12:08                         ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 14:00                           ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2011-08-09 14:47                             ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 15:09                               ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2011-08-09 15:34                                 ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 16:02                                   ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2011-08-09 16:32                                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 16:56                                       ` Ray Lee
2011-08-09 17:40                                         ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-09 17:43                                           ` [Intel-gfx] " Ray Lee
2011-08-10  8:36                                             ` Kirill Smelkov
2011-08-10  9:41                                           ` [Intel-gfx] " Alan Cox
2011-08-10 11:37                                             ` Kirill Smelkov

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